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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2012, 04:14:19 PM »

Who do you think bought all the toxic (and worthless) mortgages the banks bundled together and sold with a triple A credit rating?  Lots were sold to suckers overseas.  Pretty much bankrupted Iceland if I recall.  Dubya managed to take down the whole world economy with his house of cards.  

No, Bush isn't to blame for all their problems, but his policies really hurt the whole world.
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2012, 05:00:11 PM »

Who do you think bought all the toxic (and worthless) mortgages the banks bundled together and sold with a triple A credit rating?  Lots were sold to suckers overseas.  Pretty much bankrupted Iceland if I recall.  Dubya managed to take down the whole world economy with his house of cards.  

No, Bush isn't to blame for all their problems, but his policies really hurt the whole world.

are we talking about the toxic subprime mortgages?
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2012, 08:40:14 PM »

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Dubya managed to take down the whole world economy with his house of cards. 

No, Bush isn't to blame for all their problems, but his policies really hurt the whole world.

really?  tell me how he had anything to do with that.
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2012, 08:35:39 AM »

Because if I remember correctly he went before a democrap congress a few times and asked them to reel it in or stop it all together.

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 11:43:10 AM »

... Who do you think bought all the toxic (and worthless) mortgages the banks bundled together and sold with a triple A credit rating? ...No, Bush isn't to blame for all their problems, but his policies... hurt the whole world.


Blue, I had a different post perpaired for this space but since you gave me an opening to back up Keith13, I'll put it on hard disk and post this fast paced link instead.

Don't take my word for it.  Please pause the video so you can browse the words, take notes, and verify the facts yourself.  Enjoy!

the truth about what caused the housing crisis


It looks like Bush's mortgage policies were never implemented, especially those policies that conflicted with Democrat Congressional leaders serving on the financial regulation side of government, (Like Senator Chris Dodd, and House Member Barney Frank, Democrats both.  Any one here hear of or remember the Country Wide sweet heart mortgages that slugs like these sucked up to buy overseas vacation homes while honest Americans stuck here lost their homes and hearths to the same banks.  And if Bush the Younger's policies had been implemented the whole Obama Depression thing would never have happened.   rolleyes Trust the Democrats to shoot the messanger. rolleyes 

Since this is the Eleventh Anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the same thing applies to President Bill Clinton's refusal to take Osama bin Laden off The Soudan's hands.  The Soudan offered to arrest bin Laden.  All we needed to do was send an unmarked aircraft to Khartoum, collect bin Laden, and fly him to our "secret" Army, Navy, Air Force, & Marine base located on the "uninhabited" atoll of Diego Garcia located in the Indian Ocean.  A 12 hour airplane ride on a C130 with a black hood tied over your head does wonders for your do.
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2012, 02:57:26 PM »

Keith, 17 times.

Kingbee, BC had 4 separate chances besides the Sudan offer, to take out UBL.  He passed on each because he was afraid of killing others, starting an international indecent, etc.  the left loves to say that Bush has warning, but that warning of a coming attack was the same one that Clinton had and did not contain specific actionable info.  we had known for years that an attack was coming.  we gamed it.  that's not the same as being able to read the crystal ball and know what/when, to stop it.
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2012, 04:52:50 PM »

... BC had 4 separate chances besides the Sudan offer, to take out UBL.  He passed on each because he was afraid of killing others, starting an international indecent, etc.  the left loves to say that Bush has warning, but that warning of a coming attack was the same one that Clinton had and did not contain specific actionable info...

True but if ObL had been husking coconuts and trying to spell H-E-L-P in the sand out of sea shells on the beach at Dieago Garcia he would have had little time to plan, and perfect his plots.
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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2012, 07:00:57 PM »

KathyP, I’m too pooped to politic tonight.  I caught 4 swarms in the Apple tree tonight, moved a bunch of swarm cells to mating nucs, and then had to deal with some more of my moths that hatched prematurely today.  I’ve still got bees crawling out of my clothing as I type!  I wonder what Obama did today  Smiley





You have monkeys in your tree's? Smiley
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The Ladies could still teach the Borg a thing or two!....and maybe us too, so long as we don't go too far to the left or right and fall off the edge...
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2012, 06:53:50 PM »

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Pretty much bankrupted Iceland if I recall.  Dubya managed to take down the whole world

economy with his house of cards.  


BlueBee, me thinks that you need to drop another dime on the reasons that Iceland went keel up.

As always the theroies you post don't hold water.  Here is a little something that Blumburg Magazine published on the subject.  

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/economicsunbound/archives/2008/10/iceland_goes_ba.html

Iceland goes bankrupt
Posted by: Michael Mandel on October 10:

That’s an amazing sentence: Iceland goes bankrupt. But that’s exactly what happened yesterday (see BW piece here. See NY Times piece here). That’s a clear sign that the global financial crisis is entering a new and vastly more dangerous phase, where we are paying the price of the lack of a global financial regulator and global central bank.
 
What ‘bankrupt’ means is just that: The country cannot pay back its external debts, and the Icelandic currency, the krona, has become essentially valueless in the rest of the world. That means the country can no longer pay for imports.

The Icelandic problems have nothing to do directly with American real estate. As Kerry Capell of BW writes:

I took the liberty to highligh the most important part in RED, just so that you could both see and understand it. grin grin

On this side of the pond our Queen of Hearts, President Obama is engrossed by "his own self-styled Tea Party" that threatens to consume both you and I while destroying him.  In place of acting like a real President Obama is shouting “Off with his head” while running around in the leavers of power control room, pulling leavers at random, turning valves, and flipping switches just to see what results his actions will bring.  Is that anyway to run a railroad?  While a blind man can surely keep a locomotive out of the ditch, it takes a person with vision to tell the blind man what signals are displayed on the track and what they mean.  Otherwise the whole nation is headed for a train wreck of epic proportions with Obama's hand on the trottle like a modern day Casey Jones.





  
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2012, 11:37:42 PM »

As always the theroies you post don't hold water.  
LOL.  You do realize that your sentence above is technically false?  A “theory” is something that has already undergone extensive testing and is generally ACCEPTED as being an accurate explanation of an observation.   So if I’m stating “theory” then I’m stating generally accepted FACTS!  Maybe you got my theories confused with your hypothesis  Wink

The Icelandic problems have nothing to do directly with American real estate. As Kerry Capell of BW writes:
And then we have this from Forbes:   “Iceland is getting closer to becoming the first nation to go bankrupt as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis and resulting squeeze on lending.”

So does BusinessWeek know more about business than Forbes?  I don’t know.  Could my recollection of events in Iceland be a little foggy?  Yes.  My focus is on American economics and politics, not Icelands.  You have to admit I’m batting about 100% when it comes to events at home  Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2012, 05:52:41 PM »

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You have to admit I’m batting about 100% when it comes to events at home  Smiley


You neglected to put the minus (-) mark before the one hundred percent like this -100%   grin grin
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2012, 07:24:00 PM »

... You do realize that your sentence above is technically false?  A “theory” is something that has already undergone extensive testing and is generally ACCEPTED as being an accurate explanation of an observation...


A theory is a hope in ones heart for something unseen, without proof that it exists. There are a lot of theories that have been proposed over the years.  The only long term theory I can think of that may still stand is the theory of unintended consequnces.  Some of the more popular defunct theories are: "Global Warming"  The "Flat Earth Theory," "Evolution" "Divine Creation" The Moon is made from "Green Cheese" theory, and the "Earth is the center of he Universe" theory.  Now which of these past ACCEPTED theroes (If any) do you currently adhere to?   Returning to the subject of bees, in theory a bumble bee is incapable of flight, and in theory a liberal Democrat is incapable of logical reasoning.   grin grin grin
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2012, 01:49:56 PM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/27/us-arcelormittal-france-idUSBRE88Q09Z20120927

France is experiencing voter regret.  The new French leftist government has taken a stunning nose dive in the public opinion polls.  Meanwhile the French Steel Workers Union has told the new French Socialist government to not even address the workers again until the government has a way to keep the last French steel mills open.  The French iron and steel industry has shed 750,000 union jobs in the last 12 -15 years.  By the way, the only mills still open (to my knowledge) are making iron and steel from iron ore and that usually requires that shoo shoo nasty stuff called coke and this kind of coke comes from coal.  Say, isn't the EU at war with coal?  How's that helping French Steel Workers?   huh  

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/30/us-renault-closures-report-idUSBRE88T0AK20120930

Meanwhile, French car maker Renault is thinking of closing ALL of its factories and Assembly lines  and buying it's Renaults from Nissan Motors of Europe.  It could only happen in F-R-A-N-C-E, LOL.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-france-jobless-idUSBRE88P1GT20120926

French unemployment is currently at a 13 year high and rising.  The previous French unemployment high occurring during the Clinton Administration not the Bush years, putting the lie to the old saw “Its Bush’s Fault!”

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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2012, 12:52:55 AM »

I have been accused of being a pessimist or viewing the Earth’s cup as half empty or even broken instead of half-full or running over.  There is a good reason for this.  The reason is human nature.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/15/us-britain-scotland-signing-idUSBRE89E0PX20121015
I am not an unbiased observer; I have Scots blood.  Go for it Scotland, you have nothing to loose anymore but your chains and bondage.


http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/15/14449962-swiss-army-prepares-for-euro-zone-unrest
The Swiss being a very sensible people, are preparing for the fall-out from a Europe after the Euro collapses and the European Union falls apart.  The funny thing is that Switzerland may come out of the coming troubles as the only major power left in Europe.  Wouldn’t that be a hoot?  BTW, the Swiss are not in the European Union and they do not use the Euro.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Belgium
Here we go again more European separatists movements.  How much longer before Southern California votes to unite with Tijuana, Mexico or Miami with Cuba or Haiti?  The only question is if or when that happens, will Tijuana, Cuba or Port-a-Prince agree to take California or Miami off our hands or will we need to fight a war to force California or Miami out of the Union?  It’s doubtful but stranger things do happen every day.  By the way, the European Union’s capital…. well I would rather not call it their capital, its more like their headquarters or “Man Cave” is in Brussels Belgium the epicenter of this unrest.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19564640
More of the same.  This time the nation is Spain and the Spanish region of Catalonia (the richest part of Spain) is trying to break away from the Spanish government over its spread the wealth around tax policies.   A million and a half people in the street at one time in northern Spain is one heck of a demonstration in my opinion.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/20121014111532721903.html
Here is a little something from Aljazeera about the goings on in Nigeria. For the past 50 years a lot of the troubles in the Middle East can be traced back to the Nigerian-Biafra Civil War.. During this war the British aided the Islamic side of the conflict emboldening them and showing the world that Europe is a hollowed out version of its former self.  In my opinion the English did this out of a sense of wounded pride that their African Nation building had gone so awry in Nigeria.  In fact the Biafra genocide did not really get started until the British began aiding the Islamic Nigerian North’s fight against the Biafrain Christian South.  This gave Nigeria the means to isolate as well as blockade aid to Biafra long after the war was over killing at least 1,000,000 additional innocents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11020429
Is this why some of you are so high on the French?

A short snippet from the above link:
“The Roma are EU citizens, mostly from Romania or Bulgaria, but French law requires them to have a work permit and prove they have the means to support themselves if they intend to stay for more than three months….”
This ethnic cleansing is still on going under the new French Socialist government in fact it is gaining speed and approval from the left.
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2012, 02:45:49 AM »

Do you call it ethnic cleansing to try to control your boarders?

As for French Car maker Renault buying Nissans, you do realize that Renault and Nissan have had a business alliance since 1999?  The CEO of Renault is a real nut case IMO.  He was lauded as an automotive genius by the press about 6 years ago.  To give you some idea how bad of a business man he is; he tried to buy GM before the Bush generated financial crisis! 
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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2012, 03:54:12 AM »

... The CEO of Renault is a real nut case IMO.  He was lauded as an automotive genius... 6 years ago.  To give you some idea how bad of a business man he is; he tried to buy GM before the Bush generated financial crisis! 

Hum, you mean he was trying to use GM as a poison pill to stave off an unwanted coroperate takeover?  Ford wanted in on the action when GM and Chrysler was feeding at the public's expense.  They saw through Obama however and knew it would be a death blow to the Ford brand.  Thanks but no thanks Mr. President.   
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« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2012, 11:15:34 AM »

 he tried to buy GM before the Bush generated financial crisis

please explain how bush generated a financial crisis.

 
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and yet you think it was a good idea to dump tax money into the failing company?
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2012, 04:49:31 PM »

I find it funny that a culture that only 50 years ago was singing about "Little GTOs"  "Bright Red Shiney New Super Stock Dodges" or warning people that their little Cobra was getting ready to strike, now sings a bow-wow song about going to the west Side in their electric car.  But hey, the video does have honey bees!!  So its not a total flop.

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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2012, 05:07:09 PM »

As for bailing out France , are you talking about Bill France If so for get it he (his family ) has more money than they need. So if you mean the country> of France   I vote no.. what the hell have they ever done for us, lately.../
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« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2012, 09:29:48 PM »

Hello, this sounds like 1812, 1870, 1914, and 1939 once more all over again in my opinion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/18/francois-holland-angela-merkel-divided-over-european-economic-policy?newsfeed=true

Hey, a second opinion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-10/forget-greece-a-german-euro-exit-might-be-better.html

Oops, another second opinion
http://rt.com/business/news/let-germany-euro-soros-551/

Dad gum a fourth second opinion, and I fear the most likely long term outcome.  Code named Case Yellow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France

Do you see now why I often seem so pessimistic?  When Human Nature is in play, all the smart money is all on the pessimist.
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