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« on: April 05, 2012, 04:29:11 PM »

Spring is here and only one hive has survived out of my three.... I am trying to make another hive out of the existing one , really want the genetic of this hive.

This hive is 3 years old now, and it has honey in it from the very first year.... since I want the bees to make the most honey they can in the spring. do I want to remove most of the honey from the hive and just put in empty frames? My thought process is they will see not enough honey and gather more? or do bees just keep gathering no matter what?
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 05:51:22 PM »

I would give it to them to get started on.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 07:22:36 PM »

I need more Info.

1. What do you have for a "Brood Chambers  huh
2. What do you have for "Honey Supers"  huh

Med., Deep 1,2,3,etc. Huh

8 or 10 frames Boxes Huh


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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 07:35:53 PM »


I had Honey left on all three hive when things started blooming here. I left 1 shallow super on 2 hives and on the weak hive I left a super and a half.  I did winter the hives in a deep and 2 supers on 2 hives and 1 super on the other hive.
The hive with 1 super was the strongest this spring.  Now all three have 3 supersand the weak hive may get a 4th first of next week.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 09:13:13 PM »

If you are trying to make bees (add another hive from this one) AND honey, you have to leave that honey on, even adding honey left from your dead hives AND giving space for the queen to lay. It takes a cell of honey + a cell of pollen to raise a cell of brood; if you remove the honey, you won't get bees to split later.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 01:00:51 AM »


This hive is 3 years old now, and it has honey in it from the very first year

You are better to taste the honey is is valid to human mouth any more.

Old honey gets a bitter taste like red pepper. It may have a bad after taste in mouth too.
They may be partly fermented cells too.

If it tastes bad, it is better to open the combs and dilute stuff in warm water.  It is better to give sugar than bad quality honey to the hive, because it may spoil the new yield when you sell it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 08:33:23 AM »

I guess my main question is, should I remove the honey, to drive the bees to make more?
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 08:55:28 AM »

They will make more even if they are full up if they have an empty frame. You cant make them work harder by taking away their honey. Leave it alone.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 09:49:07 AM »

I guess my main question is, should I remove the honey, to drive the bees to make more?


No at will not but if you have not room in the Brood Chambers the bees will move on or slow than down   

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 11:49:32 AM »

Thanks Jim out of a ten frame Deep Brood chamber how much should be brood and how much honey?


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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 11:57:44 AM »

Thanks Jim out of a ten frame Deep Brood chamber how much should be brood and how much honey?




  Are running 1 or 2 box(es) (Brood chamber) on ten frame deep(s) ?


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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 03:34:23 PM »

Sorry Two deeps on this one hive..... I am switching the other hives to all medium boxes but this one has two deep for the brood
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 09:54:27 PM »

In Athol,MA. the 1st week I like to see 2 or 3 frames of honey and 1 or 2 frames of pollen 2 or 3 frames of brood. This on a Two deeps hive (brood nest on ten frame) Been keeping bees in MA. for over 50 years.

 I do not know about PA.


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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 10:34:48 PM »

On a two deeps hive (ten frame boxes)

  If you want bees to use the old honey in the comb reverse the boxes OR put honey in the bottom box the the brood in the top box.The bees will use the honey or move at to the top box.You can use the honey for split now or later.


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"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
 John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/
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