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Author Topic: Never thought I would miss Clinton  (Read 1553 times)
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2012, 01:17:10 PM »

If we get Clinton and you get Dubya, you all would be begging us to let you in our half after 4 years.  lau
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2012, 01:32:34 PM »

since we would let the population decide which side the wanted to live on, both would have to pick and live with that decision. 
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2012, 02:36:16 AM »

Personally I think there are several factors that are left out in the way we elect our presidents. First, the money is one of the deciding factors. We follow money. We elect who they say should go into office. Both right wing and left. There probably are thousands of individuals out there that could lead the country better than any of the last 4 we have had in office. Problem is their voice is not heard because they don't have the deep pockets. Could you imagine if we had a president that didn't have the issues the last few have had? No adultery, no pot smoking, no swindling, a no problem president. I know it's fantasy but what would make this county better? I was hoping for Mike Huckabee. I think he would have brought much more to the table than any other.
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2012, 12:38:57 PM »

in an ideal world, merit would be the only factor in deciding.  even in the old days, money was a factor.  either money, or already being in the public eye in some way.  it is what it is.....

i have less of an issue with the money than i do with the fact that people don't pay attention.  they don't bother to vet the candidate, but let the press do it for them.  obviously that doesn't work well.....
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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