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« on: March 09, 2012, 09:13:23 PM »

CATCHING PIGS
THIS IS TRULY THOUGHT PROVOKING. TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND SEND IT ON TO THOSE THAT YOU THINK ARE WORTH SENDING TO, AS I HAVE DONE.

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.

In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: "Do you know how to catch wild pigs?"
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said that it was no joke. "You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn.
"When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.

"They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. "The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon
they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity."

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc.
While we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.

One should always remember two truths: There is no such thing as a free lunch and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself. If you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends.
If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email.
But God help you when the gate slams shut!

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 10:49:54 PM »

Afraid this one doessn’t stand the logic test either.  How does subsidies result in: ‘loss our freedoms, just a little at a time.’  Logic error.

I’m afraid I’m going to have to use the D word here  Sad

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 12:11:39 AM »

>you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.

And the government is the most expensive "someone" to hire...

>How does subsidies result in: ‘loss our freedoms, just a little at a time.’  Logic error.

The government takes your money, without your consent, and then puts stipulations on it and gives it back, either directly to you or to the State.  There are ALWAYS stipulations.  When the money was in your pocket there were no stipulations...  How is this NOT a loss of freedom?

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 07:31:37 AM »

Spot on Michael! For the government to give,they have to take from someone. Giving money to the states for education,which ultimately came from the states citizens anyhow, then giving it back minus a bunch of it is how the Feds have taken local control of the schools away.
  The concepts of free and reduced lunches was a smoke screen. The more people a district can get to sign up for this stuff,the more federal dollars they become eligible for.
 Although we were "eligible" for the lunch program growing up,my mother had the pride to feed us without the handout.She knew it was costing someone else and felt it was her responsibility to feed and cloth us.
Sure we wore a lot of hand me downs and second hand stuff. We had bicycles other kids junked when they got new ones. But we did have respect and were thankful for what we had. I guess by todays standards we lived "poor". But we didn't have people harping that you could live a lot better at someonelse expense. We were healthy,we were happy.We had no one telling us we were poor.
We were all neighbor hood kids. We weren't taught that we were poor,middle class,rich or otherwise. We knew some people had more than we did,but we still saw each other as neighbors.
As I look back,I can see how many of these programs the corn as you will, have created the classes of people.Dividing us as neighbors.Making many think they are owed something from someone else. I try to teach my son that hard work will get him farther than whining that he's not getting his fair share.And I am sure that even though he gets mad once in a while now,it may instill the mindset of "Ill get my own thanks anyhow". 
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 08:52:17 AM »


A Hungry Hound Hunts Harder!

The QUESTION is: How Hungry?
1) Why can't I eat BEEF? I hate chicken!
or
2) Please Mister, may I have some more!

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I could have sworn I heard a fife playing, when I read your post!  grin (Green Acres)  grin

>>The concepts of free and reduced lunches was a smoke screen.
That concept was that hungry children didn't learn as fast as well fed children. I think it started as a free MILK program.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2012, 11:06:28 AM »

I don’t recall any free milk when I was a kid.  It might have been subsidized, but it still cost us kiddies a quarter or so.  I assume you all know that Milk is a nutritional building block for the kiddies?  Brains don't function without nutrition.  I hope we’re not going to start blaming the children now for our “loss of freedoms”.  

Personally I would rather subsidize milk for poor kids to get EDUCATED in the USA than waste 2 billion a WEEK in an unwinnable war in Afghanistan.  I think education is about the most valuable thing you can give the next generation.  I’m sure I’m missing some “bigger picture thing here” though.  Y'all go ahead and educate me now Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 06:25:38 PM »

LOL!!!  Logic is not the point!   we are all like sheep led to the pasture...  Given enough we will give in...   suppose it was money and not corn to attract pigs...  but to attract man...  then you have all this money but you find out it's worthless after you have accumulated all this wealth...  Oops!!  not wealth but for 30 or 40 years you worked thinking your "GOV" was building a "safety net" for you...   now you find out you are trapped in a cage and your freedom has been slowly but subversively erroded and one day you wake up and say "where is all my stuff you said I could have..."   Oh I didn't tell you... we ran out of people to pay for all the government said you should have...   we are headed down a very dangerous trail and who is to blame??

There is no free lunch...  someone always pays...
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 07:51:02 PM »

You mean all of the public assistance and wic and every other program for the poor out there and people are not feeding the kids before school? Oh wait,they needed cell phones,multiple piercings,guccis,nikes and all of that.  Sadly nothing left for milk and lunch.
  The point is they have expanded the pool to include a lot more than truly poor. They are creating dependency. And that is where the fences start to close in when people think they can not survive without government assistance. It truly makes it harder as the pool gets bigger to limit the power the government has over you.
There are very few people out there that really can not afford to feed the kids on their own,for many it's a choice to let someone else take care of the daily needs.People are naive to think that the only ones taking advantage of free meals are the hungry.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2012, 09:42:07 PM »

I believe it was Margaret Thatcher who said, "Socialism works fine until you run out of other peoples money to spend."

Many of the laws passed in the wake of 911 infringed on our freedoms.  We (collectively all US citizens) gladly gave up some freedom for security.  Not many of us realized that particular fence as it was erected.  Lately the government is telling us what kind of food we can eat.  They want to track all of our livestock.  Take a beeve to the local processor and find out all the little costs that you pay along the way.  Ask the processor what it is like dealing with the inspectors.  Try selling raw milk.  Google search raw milk in the news and see what's going on.  Soon, I'm afraid, it will be the same with honey.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 05:08:16 PM »

There are those of us that get the post and it's meaning and there are those that never will....   it's about losing your freedom slowly but surely until you are so dependent on the provider that they can start to withhold your "corn"...   it's called Socialism and it only works for the people in control.   If you don't see that you need to go back to Basic World History!

From here this can go in many directions...  my conclusion is I hold out hope but I carry a big gun...   sorry but I will not give up my freedoms for any government.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 06:11:02 PM »

Vindictive statements deleted...Apology on following post!  embarassed  embarassed  embarassed

The collective WE, hates Socialism.
Where does Socialism = give away programs to the UN-needy?
Is it happening in America? Sure it is!
What are YOU going to do about it? I hear a lot of Whining in this 'Coffee House', about the lazies and the undeserving.
I have heard about 'States Rights'. How are the States more equipped, to deal with this problem?
Have any of you, written your congressperson about changing the threshold for some of these give-away programs?
Have any of you, 'dropped a dime', on someone you believe is bilking the system?

I have read about the 'Good old days' in this forum. Back when; ' Men were Men and Women were @#%#@ glad of it'.
I have LISTENED to, my parents and grandparents, stories about that era! I would just as soon not go there.
I worked for "Room and Board" when I was 13. I would not force that on anybody!

I have seen the bottom of more than a couple of brown bottles, today. I probably shouldn't post this, but guess what! grin


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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 06:45:11 PM »

Wow Ray...  timothy mcvey... (all small letters)...  give me a break here...   I'm not talkin' states rights or nuthin' like that...  I"m talkin' rights as a US citizen under the constitution..  same as you have...   thanks for postin' anyway...  the frustration level can get way too high in a hurry...  but we do still have freedom of speech..  and you ask what do I do about it...   I call and write my reps and senators...  I vote to voice my choice...  it may not be much, but that's what I have at this point...   that's it for me for now...   timothy mcvey...  geesh!!!   really!!!    Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2012, 10:54:52 PM »

SORRY! I am a more than a little hot headed! 'McVey' was out of line! The reverence to the Civil War was too!

>>we do still have freedom of speech.. applause
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 12:06:56 AM »

I have seen the bottom of more than a couple of brown bottles, today. I probably shouldn't post this, but guess what! grin

Milk doesn't come in brown bottles does it?
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 12:13:28 AM »

If I had been drinking milk, I would have hit the delete and not the post. Crow is better eaten warm! grin
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2012, 12:27:53 AM »

 lau lau lau

Ray, we've all eaten crow at one time or another!
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2012, 02:33:39 PM »

I like crow with lots of tobasco sauce to cover up that awful taste.  Works good on shoe leather too!   grin
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 10:31:07 AM »

Afraid this one doessn’t stand the logic test either.  How does subsidies result in: ‘loss our freedoms, just a little at a time.’  Logic error.

I’m afraid I’m going to have to use the D word here  Sad

No, no, not “denigrate”, but delete, delete, delete  grin


Why am I not surprised? grin grin
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 12:23:54 PM »

I bet me and Sterling would get along grand over a glass of subsidized Milk…or Beer  grin
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2012, 05:58:08 PM »

I bet me and Sterling would get along grand over a glass of subsidized Milk…or Beer  grin
Yea we could have a big ole chat over some subsidized milk and some that govmet cheese with a little Chines honey on the side.  Bisquits or cornbread? huh
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