Thanks for the ideas. Funny thing, I tried grabbing her scruff and pulling but there is so much skin she is trying to grow into that it looks like Im pulling but her body never moves. Anyways, she knows who is the boss and she is already reading me when im not in such a good mood. Ill try the thumb under the tongue, I think it is the same as just grabbing her jaw while she trys to bite. I started a thing with the kids and wife, if the dogs starts to bite or get ruff give her a toy and ignore her. When she calms down they are to pet her and cuddle a bit.