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« on: January 21, 2012, 05:24:23 PM »

It may be a little late with only two hours left till the polls close. But anyone have a guess as to who will win?

Who are you hoping for?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 05:37:30 PM »

i'm thinking Newt.  don't really care.  by the time we have our primary, the deal is done.  my preference from what i knew of the man, was Perry. he might not be much of a debtor, but he seems to be a good leader.  that's a lot more important to me.

besides, i'd almost be willing to put money on there not being any debates between Obama and whomever.  maybe one....
we know that Obama can't speak with out TOTUS.  makes me wonder if he wasn't getting a little electronic coaching for those "brilliant" debates of the last election?
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 05:59:08 PM »

Yeah, I agree. The whole idea that a couple states will determine who wins is a joke. Politicians I once respected were calling for people to unite after only two state votes as they seemed to think that going any further would be detrimental. What is detrimental is taking away the desire of those in the other 48 states to be involved. I heard the same crap whether it was from mainstream media or republicans.

I wasn't happy last year, and I am not happy this year with the offering. I keep saying to myself that this can't possibly be the best that the republicans have to offer. But then I look at Obama, and realize that the other side is far worse.

I can't stand Mitt. I actually like Newt but understand how some have issues with his past, and this makes me wonder how this would pan out in the general election.

I don't think for many they will vote due to liking the republican candidate. They will vote due to their dislike of Obama. For once, I would like to think that the republicans had a good candidate instead of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 06:02:31 PM »

Hey, you don't think the election is rigged for Obama to win do you? Afterall, the republican is getting votes from 50 states in the general election, while Obama is getting votes from 57!  grin
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 06:03:47 PM »

i expect plenty of underhanded stuff.  there was enough last time.  since the DOJ is in the tank for Obama, his camp can run pretty free, i think.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 06:41:13 PM »

i expect plenty of underhanded stuff.  there was enough last time.  since the DOJ is in the tank for Obama, his camp can run pretty free, i think.

Ya think!  Wink

Around here, if your white, you probably already know to send in an absentee ballot, and pray someone looks at it. We have been dealing with bands of Black Panthers, patrolling voting locations carrying clubs and night sticks for a few years now. Since Obama and his joker Holder, will not prosecute a black person, you better believe this has sent a green light to these groups.

Of course if not for the video to show what happened last time, there would still be those saying there could not possible be this stuff going on. But it is.

Make up "racist" stuff about tea party, with not one frame of video to go along with it. While saying that voters are not being intimidated by black panthers is all caught on tape. Oh how things are seen by those that get tingly goosebumps up their legs as the "messiah" speaks...make that "reads" off the prompter.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 07:07:25 PM »

So far, I'm still hoping for a "none of the above" block on the ballot. The last time I voted "for" a candidate and not "against" the other, was in 1968.

Those who know my name know who I voted for then.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 09:58:26 PM »

good lord!
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 11:06:38 PM »

Uh-Oh.... Kathy knows my name.  grin
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 12:37:27 AM »

The last time I voted "for" a candidate and not "against" the other, was in 1968.

Lyndon B Johnson?
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 10:14:12 AM »

LBJ - went back to Texas and refused to run.
If Wallace had stayed out, H.H.H. would have beaten Tricky Dick!
Of course IF; Sirhan Sirhan hadn't kill Bobby Kennedy...


 
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 10:34:44 AM »

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/new-documents-show-department-of-justice-coordination-with-acorn-connected-project-vote/?utm_source=EmailDirect.com&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Jan+20%2c+2012+Campaign

so you have ACORN activists, former head of La Raza, and the DOJ which is working hard to make sure that the states have no way to verify legitimacy of voters, working together illegally.  and you wonder why i think it's likely that Obama will be "reelected"? 

 isn't it interesting that when real crimes are before us, we choose not to see.  so much more fun to wallow in our own crap in a public park.  maybe we need our own Chavez? a little dictatorship might wake us up?  if, in the future, we can take our freedom back, we deserve it.  if we can't, we have thrown away our legacy and we deserve that too.

book rec: (sorry TBeek, but don't stroke out.  it's only a suggestion)

 Adolf Hitler by John Toland.  it's long and detailed but i think it's the best writing on Hitler and Germany that i have ever read.
when you get to the 1920's part when Hitler begins to be an activist, you begin to see the US, now.
 Germany didn't elect a dictator.  Germany elected a community activist who slowly took power and did things like kill (bad) citizens while the people shrugged and enjoyed the stimulative effects of government programs.

i don't want to give away the ending.  i'll leave the rec at that.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 10:39:17 AM »

wait!!  i know someone is winding up to be hysterical that i compared Obama to Hitler.  i am comparing the CONDITIONS IN GERMANY to the conditions here which allowed a dictator to be elected.

besides, if i were, i'd be in company with all those who compared Bush to Hitler.....proving once again the excellence of the American public school systems.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 12:35:16 PM »

""If Wallace had stayed out, H.H.H. would have beaten Tricky Dick!""

If Wallace would have stayed out, I would have voted for Nixon. I expect many more would have, also.

Can't compare Obummer to Hitler. Hitler did a few good things amongst all the terrible ones.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 01:51:19 PM »

no, you can't compare the end actions of Obama and Hitler.  you can compare the beginning actions that allowed Hitler to become a dictator and the people to willingly/blindly go along with it.  it was a process.  he was not elected dictator.
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