Top 1%

[sterling]

Now understand this. All great
> democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere
> between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The
> reason? The voters figured out they could vote
> themselves money from the treasury by electing people
> who promised to give them money from the treasury in
> exchange for electing them.
>
> The United States officially became a Republic in 1776,
> 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff
> outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have
> one chance to change that in 2012. Failure to change that
> spells the end of the United States as we know it
 

[kathyp]

Hitler thought his brand of 'corporatism' (along w/ separatism, violent if necessary) was the answer to all life's problems, so if one 'really' believes in such things, he's already proud of America.  

Personally IMO;  When you're dead, your just dead.  Hitler is only kept alive by his fans.

we have "corporatism" now like we have never seen, and we have separatism, them (rich) vs us (the rich stole from) coming from the WH in a way we have never seem.

we study history because there are pattern which repeat.  unfortunately, some don't seem to learn much from history.  guess they are always hoping and changing....or something.

[T Beek]

sterling; All great democracies have what........?  How many great democracies have there been?  Where can this history be obtained?  Titles and authors (or examples) please   1776 was when we declared our Independance, Constitution came about 9-10 years later I believe.  Not to sure when we 'officially' became a Republic.

Could you name just a few of those 'great democracies' for the ignorant among us please.  USA not included since you've already decided our fate.  

Has most of the world wrongly believed that we've never had 'any' such thing as a 'great democracy', only some futile attempts at best historically, mostly due the insurmountable forces against such ideological movements and implemented by the corrupt (monied) few at the top of society?  Hm mm, now that does sound more familiar.

kathyp; our primary difference 'here' (just this one tidbit seems to be that you want to blame the WH and I want to blame those who actually 'control' the WH (that's not us).   Is that right?  

It sure seems to be going around a lot around here.  

FYI; in reality 'some' of us actually are actively involved in various movements that have made positive change, both in America and around the world.  Not everyone just gripes and blames others for the problems of the world.  Some of us are in the fight every day.

The sticker on my truck says; "stop bitchin, start a revolution."  Too much info?  Starting/joining/doing/agitating something (mostly in opposition to authority) is my mantra.  For the most part, non violent actions are considerably more rewarding than sitting around blaming someone else, whether we 'choose' to blame the President, the rich, the immigrants or the poor, or even the neighbors dog .

You know my fellow citizens, It really 'doesn't make a difference' who is occupying the building (WH), no matter what we are told by the dividers who insist otherwise.  This whole election is just a smoke screen, although it sure does make a lot of money  

thomas

[kathyp]

FYI; in reality 'some' of us actually are actively involved in various movements that have made positive change, both in America and around the world.  Not everyone just gripes and blames others for the problems of the world.  Some of us are in the fight every day.

well, good for you.

[T Beek]

No..............good for "you" kathyp .

 

thomas

[kingbee]

... 1% of patients accounted for a whopping 21% of US healthcare spending!  The top 5% accounted for 50% of all health care spending!  Of course most of these 5%ers are the elderly... The baby boomers are hitting the hospitals now and there isn’t enough generation XYZ to subsidize all the bills...

I'll play the devils advocate again and suggest that abortion be made illegal.  Not an instant solution but a step in the right direction.  Then we can pack up and send the 99%ers who comprize OWS to the moon to serve as colonist on Newt's moon base.     Hey, I'm on a roll.

[T Beek]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry on that one 

t

[kathyp]

ah kingbee, i have missed your wit!   

you have a point though.  if you really want to see a stark example of an aging population and - birth rate, look at japan.  if you are pregnant, you'll be hard pressed to find an obstetrician.  not enough babies born to make the specialty worth while.  they have nursing homes now because there are not enough younger people to care for the elderly at home, as was tradition.  kids are getting pet whatevers, and robot things for company and companionship, rather than marry and have children. 

all first world countries are in more or less the same boat, but it is very easy to study in japan because in two generations they have had a marked change in culture due to low birth rates.

because of low birth rates in 1st world countries (the US is barely above - rate) these countries are importing 3rd world labor.  the loons are split between the opinions that this is a good thing for the 3rd worlders, or this is a form of slavery.
 
the immediate impact on the 1st world countries is that their own culture is diluted.  in the eurpean countries they do not have the same "melting pot" mentality that we have here.  their imports are more or less segregated, or choose to be segregated.  this leads to things like the muslim riots in france.  you end up with international gang lands.  what happens when the imported population is strong enough to impose it's will on the rest?  you end up with francistan.  because we no longer expect people to come here and be americans, we are headed in the same direction.  want to see where?  look at the goals of groups like LA RAZA.