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« on: January 15, 2012, 05:16:11 PM » |
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So I built the frames I ordered from Dadant and they seem to be very loose in the supers I built. Anyone know the correct inside dimensions for a super? Length and width?
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 07:29:10 PM » |
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18-3/8 x 14-3/4
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 07:55:17 PM » |
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10 x 1 3/8 width frames = 110/8 = 13 3/4
Slop = 14 ¾ - 13 ¾ = 1”
Yep, the system is designed to have a good deal of slop.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 08:00:34 PM » |
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The width is 18 3/8 with additional 3/8 inch rabbets on each side for the top bar. So the 19 inch top bar should be sitting on rabbets a total of 19 1/8 inches apart. So you should have an eight inch of wiggle room. If the bar is set in the middle, there should be 1/16 inch space on each side.
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Michael Bush
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 08:12:08 PM » |
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There should be 1/8" slop in the fit of the frames in the box. The top bar is 19" long and the space between the frame rests that it fits in is 19 1/8", leaving 1/16" gap at each end of the top bar...
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 09:13:13 PM » |
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Ask 10 Beeks get 12 answers Works every time  Tommyt |
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Michael Bush
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 07:05:53 AM » |
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All answers were consistent and correct.
I was not disagreeing, just elaborating. The measurement from the inside of the wood (not counting the rests) is, as stated, 18 3/8". End to end the "slop" is 1/8" (as Idee said) or 1/16" on each end (as I said) which is the same thing. Side to side the space is 14 3/4" as everyone said and that would make the "slop" side to side, 1" as Blue Bee said. The top bar, as I stated, is 19" which protrudes onto the rests which are inset past that 18 3/8" inside measurement, to 19 1/8" end to end. These are all consistent answers.
End to end the measurements are these, assuming 3/4" boards. Outside 19 7/8". Inside 18 3/8". Inside from rest to rest 19 1/8". Top bar of frame 19".
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 05:04:31 PM » |
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What about the inside width of an eight frame box. I just put some together and it seems their is more space outside of the frames with eight frames then it is in a ten frame box with ten frames.
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Michael Bush
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 11:11:15 PM » |
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>What about the inside width of an eight frame box.
There is a lot more "slop" in an eight frame side to side. They vary in size from 12 1/2" to 12" inside depending. The most common sizes are 14" outside and 13 3/4" outside. That leaves between 1 1/2" and 1" of extra space.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 12:06:15 PM » |
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I find that extra space between frames in 8 frame equipment very handy for sliding frames during inspections. I do make a practice of sliding the frames together after inspecting so that bee space between frames is correct. Otherwise the bees build up some impressive comb to full the gap.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 09:19:18 PM » |
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