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Offline Intheswamp

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cutting brood comb questions
« on: December 21, 2011, 11:13:39 AM »
...a puff of dust turns into a small tornado as it scurries across the deserted dirt street...a tumbleweed bounces through town on it's victory ride....the door on the old stable squeaks as the wind blows it back and forth for the 1,003,493 time, a crow caws from the distance, a newspaper from 1872 flutters across the old corral, the watering trough is busted and dry, and the town's old "welcome" sign is on the ground having fallen years ago....

If this place ain't a ghost town I don't know what is!!!  At least dean0 had a recent post...short thread, but at least some activity.  Anyhow...

When you're doing a cut out and your cutting the comb to fit in the frame, how does the colony respond to cutting through the brood comb?  I mean, there's bound to be injured/killed brood. 

Do the bees clean these larvae out and simply go to repairing things? 

Does injuring the brood cause the bees to get more distrubed/angry?

Do you attempt to follow a line between two rows of cells or do you figure that would kill two rows so you cut down the middle of a row and sacrifice only a single row?

Yelp, it's kinda slow around here. :)

Merry Christmas!!!
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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 12:37:03 PM »
No they don't get disturbed or angry when you have to cut through the brood comb. By the time your to that stage they are preoccupied cleaning up spilled honey.

As far as where you choose to cut it doesn't matter because the cells on the backside of the comb are 1/2 a cell offset from the side you can see. I do try hard to minimize killing brood by centering the frames well over the dense brood areas. It's also helpful to choose the right size box that best fit the comb your removing.

Thanks for starting the thread, I think JP and schawee must be on vacation somewhere.

Tired of making equipment regards

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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 12:48:45 PM »
They normally make proper repairs just fine.


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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2011, 12:30:40 PM »
They normally make proper repairs just fine.


...JP
Well, since you've cut one or two before, I'll take your word for it.  :-D

BTW, JP.....ROLL TIDE!!!!!! :piano:
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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2011, 12:54:43 PM »
You'd be amazed at what they can repair. Its all about survival.

Now about the rematch: rocky 3 Prediction for the Fight


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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2011, 01:15:26 PM »
You'd be amazed at what they can repair. Its all about survival.

Now about the rematch: rocky 3 Prediction for the Fight


...JP  :-D
  Yelp, about the fight, er,...game...I think that's gonna be about right...regardless of who wins!  It's gonna be a good'un!!!

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2011, 01:36:23 PM »
A lot of folks said last game was boring because there weren't a lot of points scored. Frankly, I was on the edge of my seat, thought it was a great game even with the few points that were put up.

Here's hoping for a well played game with good sportsmanship on both sides.


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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2011, 01:57:37 PM »
A lot of folks said last game was boring because there weren't a lot of points scored. Frankly, I was on the edge of my seat, thought it was a great game even with the few points that were put up.

Here's hoping for a well played game with good sportsmanship on both sides.


...JP
I agree with you, I was glued to the screen.  To me it was a battle of the titans, one of those games that will be remembered for years to come...I hope the rematch is another one.

I think this game will have a few more points to it.  With the low scoring of the last game I think both sides have been looking through a microscope at the videos of it, especially each others defenses...if they still used tape the tape would have been worn out by now in both schools team's class rooms.  I won't be surprised to see scores in the upper teens and low twenties...but, it could be another slugfest. 

Ditto on the well played, sportsmanlike game...and no controversial ref calls!  A straight-up game.  ;)

Merry Christmas, JP, and thanks for the feedback on cutting the comb.  Now, I'm off to put a little syrup on my small nuc and then deliver a few presents to my mentor.

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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 04:52:30 PM »

 uh...what game?   :idunno:

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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 06:20:16 PM »

 uh...what game?   :idunno:

LSU vs Alabama-rematch for the BCS championship to be played on January 9, 2012


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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 06:35:09 PM »
Bangladesh and Pakistan in the Asia Cup cricket opener... 
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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 09:10:18 PM »

 uh...what game?   :idunno:

LSU vs Alabama-rematch for the BCS championship to be played on January 9, 2012


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Thanks.  I looked it up here:  http://www.allstatesugarbowl.org/site.php?pageID=19&newsID=417

Sounds like it should be a good one.

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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2011, 12:07:22 AM »
country heart, just say who dat and that coon*** sucker will smile all over
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2011, 10:30:01 AM »
No, no, no, countryheart...don't do it...it's a trap!!!!  Don't recite it!!!  They're trying to get you to go over to the <shudder>...tigah side!!!!! :-D  :pinkelephant:
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2011, 09:27:24 PM »

No worries.  I am firmly committed to neutrality - at least until I start watching the game.  Then I might have to pick a favorite.   :)

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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 11:13:42 PM »
the last i did cleaned up ok but were really slow doing it . i put them in to much shade i think. they finally abscounded. caught the swarm then a couple weeks later they left again. lost them this time. trial & error!!

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Re: cutting brood comb questions
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 01:10:23 PM »
do the bees care if you install the comb cutouts upside down?

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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 12:07:13 AM »
Thats an interesting question. Maybe some of the guys that do a lot of cut outs will tell us.

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 12:10:18 AM »
Since honeycomb slopes upward (I think its 17degrees) I'm sure they would care.

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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2012, 12:12:56 AM »
i would say yes also, just did not think of the upward slope