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« on: December 14, 2011, 09:47:27 PM » |
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AllenF
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 09:56:04 PM » |
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What is the difference with an unmanned port of entry and a 1000 miles of border with no fence?
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buzzbee
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 10:00:20 PM » |
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This is to facilitate passage between the two countries.Not hinder.
The last I knew,fences were tougher to climb than doors were to walk through.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 10:57:31 PM » |
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I think I have got it figured out. You publicize a unmanned port of entry, the drug cartel and organized crime build a super highway from Mexico City to Chicago. Hows that for a FREE stimulus package?
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 04:02:38 AM » |
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We have had 7,458 miles of unguarded, unfenced border with our neighbors for the last 235 years we've been in existence. Guarding it, fencing it would not only be expensive, it would be stupidly expensive and totally ineffective. Have any of you watched someone who is in the habit of jumping tall chain link fences go over one? It's worse than watching a car thief start a car faster than you can get out your keys. Plus it's even easier to cut it, or bend it or prop it... How effective was the "Great Wall of China"?
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 05:34:33 AM » |
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I agree with MB, but if the Republicans want to send the great state of Michigan a few trillion to build a fence (in the middle of the Great Lakes) to keep our 721 mile boarder “safe”, we could use the jobs  Maybe we could get the UAW to build it too  |
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buzzbee
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 06:20:48 AM » |
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I never said send money for a fence,but spending this much for kiosks is effective?
Whats next,bulk mailing personal invitations with a free overnight stay?
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T Beek
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 06:22:21 AM » |
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This is to facilitate passage between the two countries.Not hinder.
The last I knew,fences were tougher to climb than doors were to walk through.
That all depends on the 'fence' and the 'door' Either 'can' be easy or hard, depending on what's waiting on the other side  "Down with fences" thomas |
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2011, 06:57:03 AM » |
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I am waiting for the rerun of the Poncho Villa - Pershing fiasco.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2011, 10:26:48 AM » |
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the great wall might not have worked, but the zone around east germany was pretty effective....not 100%, but it was good. probably cost less than a big old fence.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 08:20:31 AM » |
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Are you saying we need a BIG Berlin Wall? I thought some of you were RR fans? If so, what will it solve? More important, what will it produce?
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 11:16:21 AM » |
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Are you saying we need a BIG Berlin Wall? small wall. big mines. |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2011, 01:13:26 PM » |
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Are you saying we need a BIG Berlin Wall? small wall. big mines. Wouldn't work. They'd just send the kids through first. |
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