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« on: July 25, 2005, 10:28:44 AM »
I have been asked, many times, if placing bees near a field of marijuana or opium or any other plant the produces illicit drugs could result in honey that has similar properties.  Does such a honey exist?  Could it?  This is for research purposes only.  Drugs are not my thing, but I am very curious about this.  Anyone know?

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 10:53:12 AM »
This has been discussed on other forums before.  I don't really know anything, but the consensus among anyone with any knowledge on the subject seemed to be that the honey was not.  The chemically active portions are not in the nectar or the pollen.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 11:04:33 AM »
Same would be true for opium
The alkaloid in the plant is inside the head of the plant which must be slitt to relase a milky substance from which the various products are refined
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 12:01:51 PM »
Well, anyway the honey is really hard to extract, because it gets stoned....

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 12:46:02 PM »
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Well, anyway the honey is really hard to extract, because it gets stoned....


As in "crystalized" ????
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2006, 08:54:00 AM »
marijuana is not insect polinated, it's wind polinated.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2006, 10:21:44 AM »
Fellow Beeks-----I see that this post already has 600+ views in less than one day.If you take note,the average post has 200 to 300 views after a week.  This is one of those things that make you go HMMMM! :lol:
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2006, 10:23:23 AM »
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Fellow Beeks-----I see that this post already has 600+ views in less than one day.If you take note,the average post has 200 to 300 views after a week.  This is one of those things that make you go HMMMM! :lol:


What are you talking about? This thing is over a year old
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2006, 10:26:46 AM »
Ok-- OK my mistake,first time I have seen it. Guess I should pay more attention.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2006, 03:06:22 PM »
i never see bees on my plants...wait...i meant to say pants

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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2006, 03:36:36 PM »
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i never see bees on my plants...wait...i meant to say pants

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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2006, 04:36:46 PM »
shucks.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2006, 04:41:31 PM »
Ok, The flowering parts is the part that gets you high for those of you who dont know.

Simply, No! but im sure explanation is in order, pot plants are male and female, you need a male to polate the female plant's, The female plants contains the THC. You can see it in some of the plants which are grown geneticaly to have These traits of Heavy Crystalization.

Bee's wouldnt be attracted to the Female plants I dont think.


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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2006, 09:01:45 AM »
My understanding is that it's like corn.  Corn produces copius amounts of pollen... of little or no value to bees becuase of it's total lack of nutritive value.  Marijuana produces an oily resin, but no nectar.  Too bad, though.  I'm sure the idea has occured to many a pothead, um, I mean beekeeper.  Large clouds of pollen are purpotedly a side effect of  the growing of industrial hemp.  It is for this reason that alot of illicit large scale outdoor growers wouldn't like to see the legalization of industrial hemp.  They fear that industrial pollen will contaminate their stock.  The end result would be alot of kind bud turned industrial.    We'd have lots of hemp rolling papers with nothing good to roll in them.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2006, 11:22:16 AM »
They could stilll keep to their practices in privatce in private... and set out the Nice male With the good Genetics and let it cross polinate and help out the Comercial plants get a little more stronger... it would be a long procces but it could make the other plants more potent.

Even if it was possible a Pot head could simply get a Small bumble bee hive in the Green house Im sure they would soon own.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2006, 04:21:18 PM »
ok. I've got to ask the obvious question.  Smoker Fuel??
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2006, 04:41:54 PM »
Would burn to quick, would get introuble, depending what part of the plant you are using. The smoke would be a good Smoker fuel, would be expensive fuel though  :lol:
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2006, 06:35:33 PM »
the leaves would probably make for good smoker fuel with an added bonus.
most people who smoke pot want to smoke the female buds. the male plant flowers and produces pollen. a more short lived and less intense high can be achieved by smoking the male leaves (or the female leaves for that matter).
the seeds are produced by the female that has been polinated by the male. the seeds are also somewhat undesireable and growers usually will get rid of males before they flower. the resuling female buds are called sensemilla.

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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2006, 09:48:58 PM »
Using Mary jane for smoker fuel is fine in theory--just don't inhale while working the bees.  Although I would wager that concern about getting stung or how much would decrease with each puff of the bellows.  Warning: do not lap lips around Smoker ports.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2006, 11:36:11 PM »
I think latebee is still on the mark despite the age of the post....for instance, if someone were to log on with the moniker "36 DD" I suspect a brisk flow of "helpful" advice would ensue...

Might be worth a try as a social science experiment.

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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2006, 12:21:13 AM »
Yea, Leavs dont get you high unless they have been incontact with the flower.

also I wouldnt recomend smoking bee's out with the flower parts, who knows you and the bee's might go for a trip...
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2006, 10:26:07 PM »
can you say Sensimillia?  A term I heard tossed around in my youth.

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2006, 12:20:54 PM »
The male plant has the flower and you rid the field of male plants or you get too many seeds from the female. The females secretes more resin(thc) in an effort to attract the pollen which is airborne and sticks to the resin. Bees need not apply for this job.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2006, 08:11:20 AM »
In your youth ? according to my kids I was never young, Ive always been 99
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2006, 09:22:10 AM »
There's seems to be  alot of "know how" here.  This confirms my suspicions.  Pot leads to beekeeping.
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2006, 05:00:44 PM »
Quote from: melliphile
There's seems to be  alot of "know how" here.  This confirms my suspicions.  Pot leads to beekeeping.


which is by far a stronger drug.

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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2006, 06:54:25 PM »
I was just thinking, Couldnt the honey bee's use Pot resins direct from the female flowering plant for proplis? :?
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2006, 05:20:18 AM »
Check out Jonathan Otts article "the delphic bee..." on the site Lycaeum.  A very interesting read.  :D

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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2006, 08:33:56 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2006, 02:33:28 AM »
Ahem. I have it on very good authority that the best hashish is made from the pollen of female "plants". People even do this with clothes dryers..... but that is another story.

If you had enough bees to get enough pollen from those plants females only, than anything could happen. But you would need a lot of pollen traps. Honey is also used by backyarders in the production of hashish as well...........but thats another story also.

So THC (tertahydrocannibol or similar the active content) could show up in honey in minute amounts. It would be impossible for it to have any effect on you.

However if you were that close to that much dope growing somewhere, I doubt youd need the bees for anything other than scouting lol.

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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2006, 03:01:50 AM »
No, I'm sorry to correct you, but hashish is made from the trichomes, which contain resinous THC, on the flowering buds of the female plant.  Pollen has no THC whatsoever.
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2006, 07:59:35 AM »
Could you think that if marihuana or poppy pollen has hallusinating stuff and the bees will be first which will be first out of mind. - And queen, which eat every day huge amount of food. It will lay like grazy! And larvae will pop out of combs!

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2006, 10:22:00 AM »
Fellow Beeks-----I see that this post already has 600+ views in less than one day.If you take note,the average post has 200 to 300 views after a week.  This is one of those things that make you go HMMMM! :lol:
Ya, you're right, 600 views, but that was a year ago.  But I guess I don't "get" the forums yet.  This post was submitted in 2005, and I wonder How can a post that was submitted in 2005 be in the new forum posting?  Hmm...I dont get it.
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2006, 12:39:27 PM »
Somebody resurected it  :shock:
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2006, 01:02:31 PM »

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This post was submitted in 2005, and I wonder How can a post that was submitted in 2005 be in the new forum posting?  Hmm...I dont get it.


All posts are archived from the start of the forum and were transferred to the new software.  You can search topics and post to them all the way back to the beginning. Hope this helps.

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2006, 01:29:36 PM »
i did a little research about mariuana few years ago. THC can only come into our bloodstream by two ways, either inhalation of it's fuems, or if it binds with some sort of fat. that's why simply eating leaves or buds of mariuana doesn't  have effect on us, and that's why "cookies" are based on butter ;)

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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2006, 10:38:27 PM »
i did a little research about mariuana few years ago. THC can only come into our bloodstream by two ways, either inhalation of it's fuems, or if it binds with some sort of fat. that's why simply eating leaves or buds of mariuana doesn't  have effect on us, and that's why "cookies" are based on butter ;)
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2006, 02:46:01 AM »
ROFL Finsky, I got it ;)

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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2006, 10:37:03 AM »
Ever tasted it raw?  It hideous!!!

you mean, THC "powered" butter :-D, or like leaves and buds??

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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2006, 11:15:21 AM »
THC powered butter, that sounds interesting, no I mean leaves and/or buds, going back many years.  I now love the taste of garlic butters, I grow tons of garlic of many varieties, so yummy, some say we all have a rather strange perfume.  Cindi
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2006, 11:35:19 AM »
no, i never tried to eat leaves. i however did try the butter and i must say that it's absoulutely hidious. i ONLY tried it.

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Apologies for resurrecting this post, :roll: and more apologies for not putting this in the 'Reprint Article Archives' where I would normally put a link like this, :oops: but it seems fitting to put it here...
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2007, 11:18:05 PM »
Maybe you could also post the link in the humour forum :)

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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2007, 04:43:57 AM »
"The spoof" thats a great site, book marked that one for future reference.

Someone I know very very very well, is able to make the best "butter" known to man :-D

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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2007, 04:35:02 PM »
Would be a good idea smoking my hives with my ornamental "pants" to kill varroa?


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« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2007, 05:37:23 PM »
I dunno, abejaruco, but if you inhale enough of the smoke from the smoker you aren't going to care much about varroa - or anything else!  :-D

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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2007, 06:38:23 PM »
uh. . . I did have something to add here. . . uh. . . what was it. . . @#@@#$%%! I can't remember. . . oh yeah. . . no wait. . .  :?

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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2007, 06:41:44 PM »
have a better idea, feed them wine syrup, that way, alcohol will get into bees bloodstream, varroa will suck that blood and assuming varroa get's affected the same way we do, it'll fell right off 8-)

oh wait..no not the wine, use some cheap vodka or something!

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« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2007, 12:12:32 AM »
abejaruco, looking fine, keep on truckin'.  If I were you, I would send the smoke the opposite direction, take a large deep breath, and then you wouldn't even care if the bees went after ya.  Best of a great day.  Cindi
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