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« on: November 07, 2011, 01:57:58 PM »
What killed him?Huh  Oh he fell!!....forgot to mention that until half way through the story....Sorry!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45191070/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 02:03:58 PM »
facts?  those are pesky things.  they don't add to the story at all!
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 05:44:18 PM »
The story seemed pretty straight forward to me.


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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 11:55:56 PM »
The headline did what it was supposed to do, got me to click on the story, got to give the writer that.  He was 'surrounded by about 60,000 swarming bees', just seems to implicate the bees were responsible.....most were in the wall, I am sure, or the responders would not have even gone in.  "Man dies after fall from chair" would not have gotten my attention.  I just know many nonbee people will will ask me if I saw the story about the man who was killed by 60,000 bees.  They will not read far enough to see the bees had little to do with his death.

Other headlines they could have used ...
 "Man dies from fall, 60,000 bees are not suspects"
 "Man found dead, 60,000 witnesses not talking"
 "Man dies, 60,000 Bees were just Innocent Bystanders"

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 10:21:02 AM »
News people get it wrong quite often & I can imagine a little embellishment on their part is often the norm to spice up the story. Seems like just about every year some reporter mentions there were a million bees in that house!  Seriously, a million bees?   grin


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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 11:25:18 AM »
first one i read just said man found dead in room full of bees.  didn't say a thing about a fall.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 12:06:02 PM »
Quote from: kathyp on November 08, 2011, 11:25:18 AM
first one i read just said man found dead in room full of bees.  didn't say a thing about a fall.
I heard that over the radio,nothing of the fall
If they said Man falls off chair and dies it surly never would have
made it past Miami,this way it became nationwide
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 09:12:31 PM »
using a fogger in the house  huh that's probably what killed him
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 12:48:30 PM »
Funny stuff right there.  Truth is something nobody wants to deal with anymore.  Especially the media leave out a few important facts and all the sudden you have a great story.  Of course for those that watch the O'Rilley Factor he just subs in different facts that support his views.  Gotta love the media gotta wade through all the trash to get to the facts.  We get more opinion pieces then news anymore.
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