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« Reply #120 on: December 02, 2011, 01:57:39 PM »

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« Reply #121 on: December 03, 2011, 01:04:54 AM »

Hi everyone, here is a quick video of the new trap box in place. The bees took to it straight away.

Trap out - Day 29 New trap box
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« Reply #122 on: December 05, 2011, 11:26:50 AM »

Thanks for the update Shane. Keep them coming. They really help to understand what it will take to do one when it becomes necessary.
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« Reply #123 on: December 07, 2011, 11:43:35 PM »

Great thread,thanks Shanej
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« Reply #124 on: December 08, 2011, 05:49:47 AM »

No problem. I hope it helps out you guys.
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« Reply #125 on: December 09, 2011, 02:05:55 AM »

Thanks for the update Shane. Keep them coming. They really help to understand what it will take to do one when it becomes necessary.
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« Reply #126 on: December 11, 2011, 11:06:17 PM »

A bit of an update fro you guys.

The last few days I have noticed no bees leaving the wall and no bees sitting on the entrance. So I planned to remove the cone today and let any robbing begin.

First thing I noticed when I went over was a small trail of ants going into the wall. If any bees were left surely the ants wouldn't be going in? I removed the cone and put a dab of honey on the entrance to invite the bees over and check it out. I watched for about 15 minutes and nothing happened so I went back to work.

Another 15 minutes later I remembered that below the entrance to the wall was a seep hole that I blocked with mesh so I went over and pulled the mesh out. What did I find?? Beetle grubs!! I didn't see any slime or smell any bad odors(Yet) but it doesn't look good. The beetles are really bad around here at the moment and plenty of people are loosing their hives Sad

While over there I pulled the lid of the new trap box to see how they were going and all appeared to be well. Plenty of bees but they haven't drawn all the frames of foundation as yet. They seem to be just working around the frame I fitted with the eggs. Over the other side of the box I could see plenty of beetles. They were gathering around the ends of the frames hiding from the bees. On 2 of the frames I could see the bees had trapped the beetles in with propolis. I left them alone and didn't move any frames to disturb them but using a small stick I squashed as many beetles between the end of the other frames and the side of the hive where they were hiding.

Fingers crossed the bees will keep fighting the beetles off till a new queen can produce some more workers.
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« Reply #127 on: December 12, 2011, 02:20:13 AM »

I have been back over again and this time I took a torch with me. Using the torch I could see in the entrance of the wall and could see the comb directly behind. All the comb I could see was uncapped and looked to be dry. A few bees from the trap box were entering the wall and having a look around but i couldn't tell if they were coming out full of honey or not.
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« Reply #128 on: December 12, 2011, 07:17:17 AM »

Sounds like a turning point in the process.  I've no experience at this, but I think I would move the trap and set up something to catch/trap those beetle larvae as they leave the wall.

Thanks again for sharing this entire experience with us.

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« Reply #129 on: December 12, 2011, 07:25:17 AM »

I have setup the ants at the seep hole to take care of the grubs. Doing a good job too Wink
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« Reply #130 on: December 12, 2011, 11:45:45 AM »

How hard was it to train those ants to do that?   grin
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« Reply #131 on: December 12, 2011, 08:27:56 PM »

It wasn't that hard. Just need to give them words of encouragement and never single them out and put them down in front of their work mates.
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« Reply #132 on: December 12, 2011, 09:37:12 PM »

Do uncles work as well as ants?
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« Reply #133 on: December 12, 2011, 09:40:42 PM »

No I don't think so. Uncles are normally old with poor eye site. They probably cant see the small grubs.

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« Reply #134 on: December 13, 2011, 07:34:04 AM »

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Looks like your adventure is coming to an end.Hope both your new colonies do well,
Thanks for documenting the whole process.

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« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2011, 12:55:14 AM »

Hi Guys,

Today I had a look in the first trap box and found no eggs or capped broad. I did however see some capped drone cells and a fully capped queen cell. Can anyone explain this? I was thinking that maybe none of the queens made by the trapped out bees survived, but if this was the case how did I get the drone cells and the queen cells? I'm now starting to think that they swarmed but if this was the case wouldn't there be at least some capped brood?

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« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2011, 11:30:13 AM »

Add another frame of eggs
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« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2012, 08:28:52 AM »

How did you go with this mate?
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« Reply #138 on: January 15, 2012, 09:01:24 AM »

Ditto Wadehump. Add more eggs.
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« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2012, 02:18:36 AM »

The first trap box is still hanging on, just. The hive has a few drone layers in it which is making things difficult. I added a frame of eggs a while ago but the produced queens were destroyed.  I know it was bound to fail but I even added a new queen but they removed her.
I added another frame of eggs just the other day so we'll see how it goes this time.

The second trap box is a different story all together. They are almost complete through filling a second super. Oddly enough they started storing honey under the lid before all the foundation in the brood box was drawn. And still a few frames in the brood box are not fully drawn.
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