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« on: October 24, 2011, 08:22:54 PM »

We did a cutout today. I don't do a lot of cutouts although I get lots of requests. Business has been slow and the money was good so we jumped on it. I especially don't like to do them this late in the year but the home owner insisted. They were having new windows installed and the bees had to go. It was about three feet wide and five feet high. Lots of bees and lots of honey. I am not sure if I got the queen. I plan to boost up a small queen rite hive with a newspaper combine.



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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 08:53:20 PM »

looked like a big job? get closer for pics lol Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 10:22:04 PM »

You picked a good warm day to do it. Any much brood to save this late with all the goldenrod blooming?
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2011, 05:17:02 AM »

There was some brood but I don't save any old comb from cutouts based on past experience with hive beetles. For me it is never a good experience when I save old comb.


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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 07:57:17 PM »

Beetles a problem this late?  35 degrees this weekend.   But I do see your point with the beetles.   
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 09:46:19 AM »

There was some brood but I don't save any old comb from cutouts based on past experience with hive beetles. For me it is never a good experience when I save old comb.

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asprince, thanks for mentioning your take on saving comb in regards to the beetles. 

My mentor and I were contemplating a cutout at a lady's barn recently.  In discussing the cutout prior to inspecting the colony he said we wouldn't be saving comb, that his experience in the past was that the bees are greatly disturbed by the cutout and so busy trying to repair and attach the comb that the beetles tend to wreak havoc on the colony and cause it's collapse.  He stated that his experience with saving comb/brood and colony survival is very poor.  Is this basically what you have experienced or are there other/additional reasons? 

We have not done the cutout on the barn I mentioned... bees in the wall of a heavy metal sheeted barn that is sandwiched between a small (but substantial) lean-to shed on the outside and a large walk-in cooler on the inside.  It's possible we may tear the lean-to shed down this winter and do the cutout this spring but it will be a chore.  When I cleared away the junk in from of where they were actually entering into the barn's interior there were beetles around that entry point.  This is a very strong hive, it appears, so I don't know what would be found within the hive.

I'm curious about what folks like Scott, JP, Shawee, Iddee, Don, and others  who do lots of cutouts also  experience in regards to the survivability of cutouts in regards to beetles....Huh?

Nice job, btw!
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 01:48:07 PM »

Ed, I have a much higher survival rate if I do not save any comb from the cutout. The reason is 100% hive beetles. I now treat them as a swarm and place them on drawn comb or combine them with a weaker hive. Like I sad I don't a lot of cut outs although I get lots of calls. I do maybe 3 or 4 per year.

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