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« Reply #180 on: January 01, 2012, 10:53:36 PM »

Well? Who is Obama going to debate? Looks like the Republicans choice is - None of the above!  grin
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« Reply #181 on: January 01, 2012, 11:30:05 PM »

who are these "the republicans"?  those who will eventually pick someone to run?  i don't have a problem with the process, and am kind of pleased that there are so many running.  they keep the conversation going.  nothing worse than having someone "anointed" from the beginning.  it's over before it's even started.

this way everything gets hashed out in the open.  i think that's a good thing.

it does seem to be driving the obama folks nuts.  they don't know what to program into TOTUS  evil
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« Reply #182 on: January 02, 2012, 08:41:06 AM »

Good ol Conservative values?      It ain't cow plop your smellin pilgim!


(Part of an editorial)                           Beaumont Enterprise &  Amarillo Globe-News
If the governor leaves Texas for brief periods, few taxpayers would question a law that allows the lieutenant governor to receive about $400 per day for acting as the state’s chief executive. But that law didn’t envision something like Gov. Rick Perry’s extended campaign for president.

Perry has been out of the state for about 80 days so far — drawing his full salary and earning Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst about $33,000 extra.

There ought to be a better way to handle this situation.

Perry, for example, could allow Dewhurst’s $400 daily bump to be subtracted from his salary.
Don’t forget that it was revealed that Perry has been drawing a pension since January for an additional $7,700 per month even though he is not actually retired.

Perry and Dewhurst are conservatives who preach the need for fiscal restraint and sacrifice during tough times.
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« Reply #183 on: January 02, 2012, 10:31:25 AM »

ray, i'm not at all sure what the point of your post is.  i'd guess, like most states, the legislature makes the rules about pay and stuff.  maybe they should take a look at it? 

i don't know.  don't live in TX.  that would be another of those state issues that should be handled by the state.
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« Reply #184 on: January 04, 2012, 10:27:17 AM »

Mitt Romney beats Rick Santorum by 8 votes in Iowa.
What is the problem with Romney?
 He is a moderate?
 He is a Mormon?
 He is a career politician?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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« Reply #185 on: January 04, 2012, 11:46:18 AM »

Romney has done a lot of things in his state that show him not to be as conservative as many of us would like.  gun control, health care, etc.  one wouldn't really expect a conservative to come from his state, so it's not a huge surprise.

a big + for him is that he's had both business and governing experience.  i won't throw up voting for him if he's the nominee.  i will work doubly hard to make sure he has a conservative congress to work with.
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« Reply #186 on: January 04, 2012, 12:48:46 PM »

Hmmmm…... so does Romney = Obama?

Please delineate the real difference.
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« Reply #187 on: January 04, 2012, 01:19:45 PM »

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I had forgotten about his corporate raider days. His love of the working class, ranks right up there with _____________( sorry having a Rick Perry moment there).
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« Reply #188 on: January 04, 2012, 02:19:53 PM »

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Hmmmm…... so does Romney = Obama?

Please delineate the real difference.

if you really need us to do that for you, you should refrain from voting until you know your candidates....whoever they are.

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not quite accurate.  but it does point out one difference.  Romney wouldn't be dumping money into failing companies....
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« Reply #189 on: January 04, 2012, 07:25:42 PM »

Hmmmm…... so does Romney = Obama?

Please delineate the real difference.

Ones is a Marxist with dictatorship tendencies. The other is a moderat republican.
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« Reply #190 on: January 04, 2012, 07:38:57 PM »

i'll tell you what, with the crap he pulled today, November....or better January '13, can't come soon enough!
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« Reply #191 on: January 05, 2012, 07:34:19 PM »

i'll tell you what, with the crap he pulled today, November....or better January '13, can't come soon enough!
Yea, he seems to have no respect for the U.S. Constitution. "If congress will not go along with me I will do it anyway and bypass congress." Paraphrased from a speech in Ohio, Jan. 4, 2012.
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« Reply #192 on: January 10, 2012, 11:31:44 PM »

Excerpt from an editorial:(Wall Street Journal)

About the best that can be said about the Republican attacks on Mitt Romney's record at Bain Capital is that President Obama is going to do the same thing eventually, so GOP primary voters might as well know what's coming. Yet that hardly absolves Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and others for their crude and damaging caricatures of modern business and capitalism.

Bain's business model is little more than "rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company," says Mr. Gingrich, whose previous insights into free enterprise include years of defending the taxpayer-fed business of corn ethanol.

A super PAC supporting the former House Speaker plans to spend $3.4 million in TV ads in South Carolina portraying Mr. Romney as Gordon Gekko without the social conscience. The financing for these ads will come from a billionaire who made his money in the casino business, which Mr. Gingrich apparently considers morally superior to investing in companies in the hope of making a profit.

Mr. Perry, who has no problem using taxpayer financing to back his political allies in Texas, chimes in that "I have no doubt that Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips, whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out. Because his company Bain Capital, with all the jobs that they killed, I'm sure he was worried he'd run out of pink slips."

Those Republicans are sure gitting nasty!
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« Reply #193 on: January 11, 2012, 12:18:08 AM »

did you forget what Hillary and Obama did to each other?  the whole question of the Obama birth certificate came from the Hillary camp.  it is the nature of the game.....
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« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2012, 05:02:15 AM »

 grin LOL, it sure is sad to see Republicans slinging mud at Republicans isn’t it  grin

It's rather hilarious for them to be attacking Romney for his involvement at Bain Capital.  Taking over companies, breaking them up to “release capital”, selling off the parts, and firing people; all that was pretty much invented by the Reagan Era Republicans.  

If I recall the 1980s game was to sell a bunch of junk bonds to raise 'take over' money, use those proceeds to take over legit companies, tear them apart, sell them off and walk away with a few billion.  Wonder who Junk Bond King Milken is backing in 2012?

If we get stuck with any of these misfits, I would rather it be Romney.
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« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2012, 11:39:52 AM »

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or....reorganizing failing companies, selling nonproductive segments, and saving jobs?  guess it just depends on how you look at it  Wink
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« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2012, 01:18:02 PM »

Good vs Bad does seem to be in the eye of the beholder. 

Like I said, I would prefer Romney over the rest of the Republican authoritarian wannabees.  At least we know Romney is a capitalist.  Evidently a pretty good one at that.  He's got a definate advantage over Obama in that regards.  I haven’t done much research on Bain, but it doesn’t look like they modeled their business plan after Michael Milken.   It appears like Bain made more of their money on building things up than tearing them down.  I'm sure Newt and his cronies will let us know if that wasn't always the case Smiley
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« Reply #197 on: January 11, 2012, 01:24:27 PM »

of the field, i would probably vote for Perry.  none are perfect.  none are terrible...except RP.  all would be better than what we have....except maybe Paul.
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« Reply #198 on: January 11, 2012, 01:51:10 PM »

LOL, what is your list of complaints against Ron Paul?  I thought he was a darling of the Tea Party Wing of the Republicans?  He seems to propose we get rid of government, pretty much ALL of government!  Isn’t that one of the main themes of the Republicans? 
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« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2012, 02:12:07 PM »

good grief, no.  he's not the darling of the tea party or any other rational people.  he is the darling of those who are uninformed and he has lots of disillusioned Obama supporters behind him.  his followers are more a cult than informed electorate.

he's right about a lot of domestic stuff.  the feds are involved in way to much of our lives.  he's off his rocker on most international stuff.  he's also more libertarian than is practical. 

all the tea party people i know, are like me.  they are constitutional conservatives.  we want the government to stick to it's constitutionally mandated jobs, and leave the rest to the states and the people.  i don't find that to be to radical.
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