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« Reply #100 on: November 04, 2011, 02:23:37 PM »

Obama is liberal? To me he doesn't look much different than a Republican.
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« Reply #101 on: November 04, 2011, 02:27:08 PM »

OH! Those wonderful rose colored glasses....  rolleyes   grin
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« Reply #102 on: November 04, 2011, 02:49:13 PM »

Obama is liberal?
Unfortunately No.  He has not done what he campaigned to do.  This will be Obama’s Achilles heel in the next election.

If the Republicans offer up somebody who is a flip flopper with a liberal past (like Romney) I think they have a real chance of winning because they will pull in the independents.
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« Reply #103 on: November 04, 2011, 03:43:45 PM »

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If the Republicans offer up somebody who is a flip flopper with a liberal past (like Romney) I think they have a real chance of winning because they will pull in the independents.
Rick Perry, former Democrat, was the Texas campaign manager for Al Gore...
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« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2011, 04:17:16 PM »

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Unfortunately No.  He has not done what he campaigned to do.  This will be Obama’s Achilles heel in the next election.

i don't think this is true of any but the far left.  the far left is a minority in this country.  two things will get him.  what he
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Romney has some non-conservative issues in his past.  some of those things bother me.  some don't.  his state health care program bothers me less than some of his past stands on things like gun control.  one is a matter that a state has the right to deal with as they see fit.  the other is a constitutional issue.  big difference.

the fact that Perry was a democrat is not a big deal.  lots of southern conservatives are democrats.  Reagan was a democrat.  people are redeemable.   evil

just as a matter is curiosity, how do you define liberal if you are a democrat?
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« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2011, 08:02:23 PM »

A lot of people who were once domocrats have left the democratic party. Or a better way to say it, the democratic party has left alot of people.  Cry
Communist and marxist have taken the democratic party away from true dems. Cry
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« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2011, 08:21:17 PM »

I think you have a good point sterling.The party left the people,but unfortunately the people still cling to the party that left them behind. I think more people should think of themselves as "independent" rather than a party constituent whos vote can be counted on.This chips  away the party power.
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« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2011, 08:38:13 PM »

it's true, but the democrat party was the logical place for those with Marxist leanings, to land.  it, along with more left leaning republicans, has always been the party of bigger government.  the farther left the party goes, the more government we get.  more government = less freedom.
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« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2011, 01:55:05 AM »

LOL...Why do the Republicans always start calling everybody a “communist” or a “Marxist” when people don’t agree with them?  That’s just a typical debate ploy to move away from debating real issues by trying to strike an emotional cord.  The Republicans seem to excel at this form of diversion; just look at their primary!  Nobody is focused on debating real facts or real problems; it’s just a mud bowl.  Emotion over reasoning.  Mushmushi is much better at analyzing the Republicans than I am Smiley

Give me the name of one mainstream Democrat that ever promoted getting rid of capitalism? 

I don’t want to get rid of capitalism, don’t know anybody who does.   It seemed to have worked wonderfully for us after WW2 until the Republicans got power in the 80s.  It’s been downhill ever since for the average American.  I favor a return to the policies that made us the number one economic super power like in the past, not the number one debtor we are now.   
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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2011, 04:24:25 PM »

the reason we refer to the far left as Marxist is because that's what they are.  it's not name calling. it's a fact.  that's why, when you read through the literature from communist party USA or socialist party USA, they openly say that they work through the "progressive" wing of the democrat party.  it's not a secret.

everything from the so called green movement, to the unions, to the call for income equity is straight out of Marx/Engles.  the father left you go, the more they embrace all that Marx wrote about.

problem with most on the left is that they don't bother to learn this stuff so they think they are embracing something new and wonderful.  if you are supporting liberal candidates, this is what you are supporting. 
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2011, 08:45:05 PM »

Some things to consider:

The Bible says "raise up a child in the way he should go and he will not depart from it".

Our president Barrak Obama's father was a communist.
His step father was a communist.
His mother was a communist. His white grandparents were communist.
His mentor when he was a child was a communist.
In his own words, when he was in school he sought out marxist professors.
Many of the people he has now as advisers are known communist.
As head of the democratic party he is living as he was taught to live.

And if you really wanted to consider some other things you could think about his policies such as controlling our health care, controlling student loans, controlling the way banks do their business, taking over car manufacturing companies, using tax payers money to give to solar companies, shutting down oil drilling companies and giving tax payer money to other countries to drill for oil.

When I was in school the USSR did these same type of things and we were taught that it was a communist country and they were our enemies
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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2011, 09:22:11 PM »

GREAT post, Sterling. Too bad so few will realize how truthful it is.
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« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2011, 09:31:21 PM »

I realize it.
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« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2011, 10:36:23 PM »

yup.  brilliant!
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« Reply #114 on: November 07, 2011, 01:15:32 PM »

Sterling, tell me you're kidding. Would you care to offer any proof on this? And nothing from Fox News or anybody rabidly biased.
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« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2011, 01:22:51 PM »

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seriously??  you are supporting this guy and you don't know his background?  on this one, you should do your own homework.  you need to know who you are voting for.....unless you are just voting the "D" and don't care.

what sterling posted is true.
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« Reply #116 on: November 07, 2011, 02:17:13 PM »

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And nothing from Fox News or anybody rabidly biased.


http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm

http://www.deadfishwrapper.com/harvard_study_shows_media_bias_favors_democrats

so...where do you get your news?
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« Reply #117 on: November 07, 2011, 04:09:43 PM »

Sterling went easy on Obama.

No mention of Bill Ayres or Jeremiah Wright.  Those are some really good Obama influences. 

It's amazing to me that people turned a blind eye to this stuff before the election.  What absolutely blows my mind is that they still deny it.  I have more respect for someone that says they support Obama because they want our country to be Marxist or Communist than I do someone who refuses to recognize the obvious and basks in ignorance.   

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« Reply #118 on: November 07, 2011, 04:25:45 PM »

Sterling, tell me you're kidding. Would you care to offer any proof on this? And nothing from Fox News or anybody rabidly biased.

The information is true. Most of which you will not find in the daily news. It is a collection of information my wife and I have gathered form reading things like Obama's book and others who researched things like "his white grandparents being members of the Little Red Church" a communist organisation. Sites like the American Thinker have a lot of information not found on the daily news.
 Obama said during his campaign that he would "fundamentally" change our country. What do you recon he was talking about?

Like Kathy said you and others need to do you own research learn more about this man then tell me where I misspoke.
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« Reply #119 on: November 07, 2011, 04:42:49 PM »

and you don't need to put a lot of effort into it.  just look up the names of people in his life.  Obama was introduced to Frank Marshal Davis by his grandparents so that he could have a black influence in his life. frank was a friend of his grandfathers.   why did they pick a black communist?

on it goes.  you'll be hard pressed to find anyone in obamas life that was not a radical or communist, or both.
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