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« on: September 24, 2011, 05:40:18 PM »

Hi,

 I came home today to find a collection of about 150-250  bees inhabiting the space between my screen and storm window. The number of them peaked around 2:00 pm, and by 5:00 or so, most were either dead or gone. Can anyone explain this behavior ? I've been told by a couple beekeepers that its way too small for a swarm (and its the wrong season).

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 05:46:56 PM »

Where are you located?    Sounds like a very late season swarm.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 05:49:02 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 06:31:17 PM »

Also looks like a small late season swarm to me.


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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 07:18:24 PM »

Couple of questions:

1) am I likely to see the "visitors" again tomorrow, if so is there any way to discourage use of that location again.

2) Does their swarming so close to my house have any meaning (like possibly a nest somewhere in my walls).  I know I have a couple of wasps nests outside the house, but have never seen honey bees around the house before

3) probably 20 percent of the bees that were there at peak are either on the ground dead or motionless between the screen and the window. Is this normal ?

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 08:39:47 PM »

Check all around your house to see if you have bees flying in and out a hole somewhere.  It may not be very many bees.   That is where a hive is.  Also with the dead bees, someone may have sprayed them.   The swarm (or hive at that time) may have been at a neighbors house and been sprayed and then they flew over to you.  They are gone.   Don't worry about them coming back unless they are living in the walls of your house.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 10:42:14 PM »

Are you sure they are bees?  Not wasps.  Not yellow jackets?  They have no reason to want to get in between a screen and a window.  Maybe a wasp nest?  Maybe the bees are trying to get somewhere else and end up there, but that's hard to figure...
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 12:29:20 AM »

Couple of questions:

1) am I likely to see the "visitors" again tomorrow, if so is there any way to discourage use of that location again.

2) Does their swarming so close to my house have any meaning (like possibly a nest somewhere in my walls).  I know I have a couple of wasps nests outside the house, but have never seen honey bees around the house before

3) probably 20 percent of the bees that were there at peak are either on the ground dead or motionless between the screen and the window. Is this normal ?

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1) Its very possible they could show up again tomorrow.

2) They could be trying to choose your house as a new location.

3) Bees that are trapped are easily stressed which causes them to expire. This is normal.

Inspect the area they were interested in and caulk/seal openings they could use to enter a void space in a wall or eave to establish their colony. You could likely deter them with a diluted vinegar spray temporarily.

Even if they were to set up shop, I suspect they would not make it through winter in your area.


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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 10:24:30 AM »

Are you sure they are bees?  Not wasps.  Not yellow jackets?  They have no reason to want to get in between a screen and a window.  Maybe a wasp nest?  Maybe the bees are trying to get somewhere else and end up there, but that's hard to figure...

They are definitely honey bees (or something that looks exactly like them.) I asked a beekeeper friend to come over and verify. They are orangeish toward their center and fade to black at the end. There are a couple of yellowjackets in the same area, so I've compared them up close. Before yesterday morning, I hadn't seen any bees in that area.

Today there are 20-30 flying/hanging out in the area around the door, most of them have left the space between the screen and the storm windows, but some are still there. The still seem to be clustering in the top corner.

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2011, 10:38:54 AM »

I see the picture now, and the do look like honey bees.  They could be nesting somewhere where a hole opens into that space and they wander out into it unintentionally.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2011, 10:41:07 AM »

These bees could of been attracted to a color or even a certain smell coming from the window area. Once they crawl into a space like that, honey bees easily get lost and trapped in the area.

Random bees in numbers can be seen also if there was a feeding frenzy in the area. Robbing, a hummingbird feeder, or anything else that could of caused bees to fly around seeking some food source. Could of been from a nearby beekeeper. I know the first day I open feed I have bees at windows and doors in good numbers. Many just flying around randomly looking for the food source. And when one or two bees go to a particular spot, it seems to attract a few more, then a few more, then a few more. Much of bees flight is based on pheromones of other bees.

I also put up a blue canopies in the backyard for certain functions. It always attracts bees as this is one of the colors they favor for flowers.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2011, 11:58:46 AM »

Are you sure they are bees?  Not wasps.  Not yellow jackets?  They have no reason to want to get in between a screen and a window.  Maybe a wasp nest?  Maybe the bees are trying to get somewhere else and end up there, but that's hard to figure...

They are definitely honey bees (or something that looks exactly like them.) I asked a beekeeper friend to come over and verify. They are orangeish toward their center and fade to black at the end. There are a couple of yellowjackets in the same area, so I've compared them up close. Before yesterday morning, I hadn't seen any bees in that area.

Today there are 20-30 flying/hanging out in the area around the door, most of them have left the space between the screen and the storm windows, but some are still there. The still seem to be clustering in the top corner.



Inspect the top corner tonight.  If they are scouts or even foragers (from another colony) they will be gone by tonight and you can then seal that area.

If for some reason they have set up shop you would begin seeing "traffic" where the entrance to the hive is. Bees coming and going. Once they get established they will start bringing in pollen on their rear legs.

I don't believe this will be the case here but there is an outside chance.

Keep your eyes open and inspect tonight.


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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2011, 12:24:12 PM »

Bees instinctively go to the top. They are bunched there because they are stuck and can not figure out how to leave. they will cluster together, feed each other, until they die.

I would remove the screen if you can. Let the bees fly off and your problem will quickly go away. Right now, you are just trapping bees, then wondering why they are there. Who cares! If they all die, are you not going to open the screen and clean the dead bees out? So do it while they are still alive and do them a favor.

It's a simple problem, and has a simple solution. Which takes about 2 minutes to complete, versus the two days of discussion that this has evolved into.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2011, 12:27:44 PM »

And while the discussion continues, some are learning about this little episode, which is why the OP came here in the first place.  Wink


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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2011, 12:37:04 PM »

And while the discussion continues, some are learning about this little episode, which is why the OP came here in the first place.  Wink


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Yes...JP. That is true. Although your advice of waiting till tonight prolongs this episode and is questionable advice at best in my opinion. This whole "wait till tonight" does nothing to stop the bees from getting stuck, dying, or ending this ongoing problem that is easily eliminated by some commonsense.

There....I hope others ARE learning something.  grin

You go ahead and concentrate on spending a few days, answering all the question that pop up. I'll pass along the practical solution and how to end this ordeal for the homeowner. I have seen bees get stuck many times between a screen and a window. I never spent days scratching my head, discussing it with a few hundred beekeepers, or waiting a day or two to do something. I just popped the screen, released the bees, and moved on. Popping the screen also allows you to perhaps find out more about the situation, without the aspects of stuck bees in a small cluster at the top of the window.
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2011, 12:46:08 PM »

I do see the humor in this.  grin

Q - How many beekeepers from the south does it take to release bees from between a screen and a window?

A - A few hundred to discuss the problem, analyze why they are there, and finally clean them out once they all die.

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2011, 01:05:57 PM »

I think the OP was just curious about the behavior and wanted to learn more about it. Seems to me he was just trying to get educated about bees.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2011, 01:09:20 PM »

OP said bees are at the top corner of the wall and most are not inside the screen anymore. Waiting til dark allows the OP to see where this is going, allows the bees on the exterior to leave on their own and allows the OP to seal the area if/when necessary without having to deal with a cluster of bees.

This situation is dependent on what the bees are deciding to do in this area. It will all likely be over in a day or two.  

I'll be here to check back on this thread to give a hand where its needed.


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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2011, 01:18:54 PM »

I do see the humor in this.  grin

Q - How many beekeepers from the south does it take to release bees from between a screen and a window?

A - A few hundred to discuss the problem, analyze why they are there, and finally clean them out once they all die.

 lau

I don't find any humor in what you are suggesting, in fact I take offense to your so called attempt to poke fun at beekeepers from the south, which you seem to do on a continuous basis.

You have yet again ruined another harmless thread with your antics. This little so called joke you should have just kept to yourself.


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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2011, 01:45:45 PM »

Thank you for all the input, there are only a couple bees left in the area at this point.

Just to finish up the thread, there are a couple reasons I asked the questions

1) the 3 bee people from the area I have talked to don't have an explanation for why this type of thing would happen at this time of year

2) Not having any experience keeping bees myself, and having a major bee phobia, seeing a 150-250 of them close to me or my house is not really something I'm comfortable with, so it was either find out why they are there and how to make sure they don't come back, or call an exterminator and deal with it that way. I figured answers were better than chemicals.

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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2011, 02:59:15 PM »

southern to the bone bee keeper with his dander a little riled by you continious remarks about us.
Sorry about this to you others, but to you bejorn; for in your opinion you are a nice guy. but not in mine. you love to try and get people stired up with your snide little remarks and then act all hurt when someone comes back on you. if you were to use your vividiest imagination you would not come close to the contempt i have for you.
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2011, 03:21:18 PM »

1) I gave my opinion on what the OP asked. I gave several scenarios.

2) I then, suggesting action instead of more days of discussion. Not one other reply did much to remedy the solution for the homeowner. I could care less if all they wanted was information. I offered action, and there is nothing wrong with that.

3) JP, could of ignored my post, but responded that I was wrong, and that the OP was "learning" from the episode. Which I agree, that ALL the posts were potentially helpful. Regardless of whether JP thought my reply was agreeable to him.

4) I suggested removing the screen to alleviate a problem, instead of more talk after two days, which now finding out the homeowner has a bee phobia, probably was good advice afterall.

5) I could care less what bud1 thinks of me. Once again, instead of just moving on, you throw fuel on the fire while suggesting I stir things up, after a mere joke. You come back with some rather nasty personal comments. And I'm the "bad" guy. What a joke it actually was.  Wink

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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2011, 03:29:48 PM »

I think the OP was just curious about the behavior and wanted to learn more about it. Seems to me he was just trying to get educated about bees.

Originally yes in the first post.

Read reply #4. The OP directly asked what she could do to alleviate the circumstances from happening again. Since the bees are trapped, removal of the screen would be a sensible and logical thing to do. Regardless of why they got there, letting the bees disperse seemed logical to me.

I guess I should of ignored the request and just assumed she was being educated as JP stated.  rolleyes
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2011, 05:36:16 PM »

1) I gave my opinion on what the OP asked. I gave several scenarios.

2) I then, suggesting action instead of more days of discussion. Not one other reply did much to remedy the solution for the homeowner. I could care less if all they wanted was information. I offered action, and there is nothing wrong with that.

3) JP, could of ignored my post, but responded that I was wrong, and that the OP was "learning" from the episode. Which I agree, that ALL the posts were potentially helpful. Regardless of whether JP thought my reply was agreeable to him.

4) I suggested removing the screen to alleviate a problem, instead of more talk after two days, which now finding out the homeowner has a bee phobia, probably was good advice afterall.

5) I could care less what bud1 thinks of me. Once again, instead of just moving on, you throw fuel on the fire while suggesting I stir things up, after a mere joke. You come back with some rather nasty personal comments. And I'm the "bad" guy. What a joke it actually was.  Wink

I actually have feelings about most folks here. Most are good natured. Some are not. But I never thought it proper to use the words such as contempt in directly commenting on them, or stating they are not nice. And I think anyone who can't take a poke about southerners, northerners, or any other group, which is intended as good natured fun, should probably take a break.



This is what you wrote:

"It's a simple problem, and has a simple solution. Which takes about 2 minutes to complete, versus the two days of discussion that this has evolved into."

Here you are insinuating that the two days of discussion that the OP started was a waste of time.

I never said nor insinuated you were wrong about anything you might have said.

This is what I said:

"And while the discussion continues, some are learning about this little episode, which is why the OP came here in the first place."

It was a light hearted attempt (smilie included) to challenge your view that the two days of discussion was not a waste of time.

You then tried to bully the discussion and rate my advice as questionable at best. You took offense to my mere light hearted attempt at pointing out that the discussion was not a waste of time and then proceeded to attack me personally and all southern bee keepers.

I can take a joke as well as the next person but your sense of humor in this discussion was more of a personal attack and in bad taste.


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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »

First off, guys, remember that Bjorn is from north of the mason-Dixon line. You don't expect much from those folks. You just kinda smile and shake your head. Lord bless their little pea-pickin' hearts.

Secondly, anyone who asks about 2 or 3 hundred bees they see in their home, and state it's the most they have ever seen, is telling most "sensible, ie. southern", beeks that they have a bee phobia.That means they don't want to walk into the midst of them and remove a screen.

Thirdly, If the name Rob is as most, he is not a she. I suppose it takes a southerner to realize that, too.

Fourthly, if that's a word, that many bees is 90% likely to be an abscond in Albany, N.Y. Meaning they are on death row anyway. Why not use them for education? They certainly aren't going to make a survivable colony.

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This is what you wrote:

"It's a simple problem, and has a simple solution. Which takes about 2 minutes to complete, versus the two days of discussion that this has evolved into."

Here you are insinuating that the two days of discussion that the OP started was a waste of time.

I never said nor insinuated you were wrong about anything you might have said.

This is what I said:

"And while the discussion continues, some are learning about this little episode, which is why the OP came here in the first place."

It was a light hearted attempt (smilie included) to challenge your view that the two days of discussion was not a waste of time.

You then tried to bully the discussion and rate my advice as questionable at best. You took offense to my mere light hearted attempt at pointing out that the discussion was not a waste of time and then proceeded to attack me personally and all southern bee keepers.

I can take a joke as well as the next person but your sense of humor in this discussion was more of a personal attack and in bad taste.


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Should I respond now, or are you going to contact Bud? I guess an email went out to tommy in Florida and few other folks, rounding up the good ol' boys support group. That is what usually happens.  butt kick
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2011, 07:31:44 PM »

WELL?? That was your intention, wasn't it? I didn't see anything in your posts other than an intent to get something started. Were they supposed to mean anything else?
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2011, 07:32:00 PM »

New Joke:

Q: How many Northern beekeepers does it take to pi** off hundreds of Southern Beekeepers!

A: Just One  butt kick lau

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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2011, 07:33:54 PM »

Hold on guys, I'm typing on the other scren. But you guys are too fast. grin
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SC, don't give him the satisfaction. My mother used to say: "Ignore it, maybe it'll go away". She meant when someone tries to get a row started, don't feed it and it'll give up.
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We can't help it if you yanks can't keep up.
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2011, 07:37:32 PM »

Hey iddee!

Now, now! ...don't get caught up in the details. It's not really about what I said, or something I mentioned. It is clear that the remarks towards me is about contempt and bitterness. I usually get this or worse for far less than some southern comment. It is hard for most to see things in the proper light of humor or just a smaller issue than they make it out to be, when contempt, bitterness, and other personal feelings are thrown into the mix.  

As for Rob, I was looking at the sign in name as robsee. I didn't see the "rob". Perhaps rob is "robsee" in the south, as bud would be "budsee". Bubba would be Bubsee, Junior would be Susie, wife would be cousin, and so on. I don't get it. Maybe it's a southern thang.  rolleyes

Back to the details....I had thought that "robsee" had spoke to at least one or three beekeepers who identified the bees. I assumed, that someone was over to see what was happening. But maybe that did not happen. So I thought it would be a simple request to ask the next beekeeper to pull down the screen.

Maybe robsee should quit asking for advice and just ask the many beekeepers he/she keeps calling, to just make a visit. Or is that something nobody does in the south. Robsee has a cluster on the window, has a phobia towards bees, and yet nobody has the gumption to visit, perform a service, etc.

Two days of chatting over this. And nobody has suggested robsee get in touch with a beekeeper, nobody has offered to locate a local bee club, and nobody has done anything other than try to educate  and speculate why the bees are there. I guess that is a southern thing.

And it's no wonder robsee has commented that next time, an exterminator is probably the option of choice. Leave it to beekeepers to screw it up.  grin
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2011, 07:39:01 PM »

New Joke:

Q: How many Northern beekeepers does it take to pi** off hundreds of Southern Beekeepers!

A: Just One  butt kick lau

Lighten up guys-- It is what it is and you know what it is!

Good one!

Not sure if that really is a joke about northerners. Think about it.........oh, I forgot. Never mind.
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »

We can't help it if you yanks can't keep up.

You can't help much for many things, can you?

Is this too much "code"? Not sure if you understood that. Let me know, and I'll explain if need be.
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2011, 07:49:41 PM »

""when contempt, bitterness, and other personal feelings are thrown into the mix."'

Each regular member has a reputation. Many times their known habits are thrown back at them.

""Perhaps rob is "robsee" in the south""   ""Or is that something nobody does in the south.""

Maybe he is in "south" Albany, N.Y., I don't know, do you, Mikey?

""Two days of chatting over this. And nobody has suggested robsee get in touch with a beekeeper,""

You're right. NOBODY! Not even a yankee.

""You can't help much for many things, can you?""

Yeah, we can help people with bee problems, in spite of yanks trying to prevent it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2011, 07:52:36 PM »

Robsee, don't pay any attention to us. We like to tease each other a bit now and then.

As for your bees, they are likely what is known as an abscond. They ran out of food, or had too many pests in their hive and were dieing anyway, so left their home on a last ditch effort to survive. They will go away in a couple of days.
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2011, 08:32:38 PM »

Hey iddee!

Now, now! ...don't get caught up in the details. It's not really about what I said, or something I mentioned. It is clear that the remarks towards me is about contempt and bitterness. I usually get this or worse for far less than some southern comment. It is hard for most to see things in the proper light of humor or just a smaller issue than they make it out to be, when contempt, bitterness, and other personal feelings are thrown into the mix.  

As for Rob, I was looking at the sign in name as robsee. I didn't see the "rob". Perhaps rob is "robsee" in the south, as bud would be "budsee". Bubba would be Bubsee, Junior would be Susie, wife would be cousin, and so on. I don't get it. Maybe it's a southern thang.  rolleyes

Back to the details....I had thought that "robsee" had spoke to at least one or three beekeepers who identified the bees. I assumed, that someone was over to see what was happening. But maybe that did not happen. So I thought it would be a simple request to ask the next beekeeper to pull down the screen.

Maybe robsee should quit asking for advice and just ask the many beekeepers he/she keeps calling, to just make a visit. Or is that something nobody does in the south. Robsee has a cluster on the window, has a phobia towards bees, and yet nobody has the gumption to visit, perform a service, etc.

Two days of chatting over this. And nobody has suggested robsee get in touch with a beekeeper, nobody has offered to locate a local bee club, and nobody has done anything other than try to educate  and speculate why the bees are there. I guess that is a southern thing.

And it's no wonder robsee has commented that next time, an exterminator is probably the option of choice. Leave it to beekeepers to screw it up.  grin

There will always be more than one option when dealing with bees. At no time were any of us pinned down by the OP for one concrete solution. It began as a discussion with a thirst for knowledge.

I believe he came on here and thanked us for the advice that was given. You seem to be the only one dissatisfied at how the discussion was being handled, grew impatient, labeled the discussion as a waste of time then proceeded to go on the attack like you normally do when you are trying to force others to see your way of thinking.


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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »

""when contempt, bitterness, and other personal feelings are thrown into the mix."'

Each regular member has a reputation. Many times their known habits are thrown back at them.

""Perhaps rob is "robsee" in the south""   ""Or is that something nobody does in the south.""

Maybe he is in "south" Albany, N.Y., I don't know, do you, Mikey?

""Two days of chatting over this. And nobody has suggested robsee get in touch with a beekeeper,""

You're right. NOBODY! Not even a yankee.

""You can't help much for many things, can you?""

Yeah, we can help people with bee problems, in spite of yanks trying to prevent it.


Go back and read the posts. I was the one who suggested action, not another day or two of words. But that seemed to bring more than one who commented that robsee just wanted to be "educated", even though it was clear he/she was asking what to DO!

This yank picked up on that. Can you imagine instead on suggesting the removal of the screen, and something as far fetched as contacting a local beekeeper or bee association? Heads would of exploded!
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There will always be more than one option when dealing with bees. At no time were any of us pinned down by the OP for one concrete solution. It began as a discussion with a thirst for knowledge.

I believe he came on here and thanked us for the advice that was given. You seem to be the only one dissatisfied at how the discussion was being handled, grew impatient, labeled the discussion as a waste of time then proceeded to go on the attack like you normally do when you are trying to force others to see your way of thinking.


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Blah, blah, blah!

Didn't you already say as much earlier?
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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2011, 09:28:28 PM »

New Joke:

Q: How many Northern beekeepers does it take to pi** off hundreds of Southern Beekeepers!

A: Just One  butt kick lau

Lighten up guys-- It is what it is and you know what it is!

Good one!

Not sure if that really is a joke about northerners. Think about it.........oh, I forgot. Never mind.


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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2011, 09:43:23 PM »

Realistically, I don't think telling a non-beekeeper to walk into a swarm of bees without protective wear is anywhere near a good suggestion. It just isn't going to happen. As for suggesting another beek, he had said he went that way already, but the northern beeks were of no help.
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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2011, 09:55:38 PM »

like i stated you piss people off with yo coments then you try and turn it around about you being abused. po little old abused misunderstood yankey
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2011, 11:50:10 PM »

Bjorn ya know I can't figure out how when it comes to beekeeping your always right everyone else is always wrong.  We are all here to lend advice and in some cases opinions and learn also.  When we stop learning we become self proclaimed experts and neglect honing our craft.  I suspect your joke may have been taken differently if posted in the proper forum.  Most southerners would have said the same thing about yankee beeks and it would have been forgotten.  Unlike the infamous gay spiders.  One last note Ken says your a pretty good feller and to me his word is as good as gold.  Think about it next time when your thinking about throwing out an insult and maybe people won't be so quick to jump on when something hits close to home with you. 
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2011, 01:57:45 AM »

There will always be more than one option when dealing with bees.
True.
In addition of that there are a few statements supported by evidence, using logic and other disciplines like physics, chemistry and classical economics.
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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2011, 06:29:37 AM »

Bjorn ya know I can't figure out how when it comes to beekeeping your always right everyone else is always wrong.  


Funny thing is...I'm not the one saying this. I just tell my opinion, back it up with details, probably go out of my way to explain, and tell why I know to be true to me. Isn't that everyone's goal in some way? To suggest the way best as they know it. Even if it goes against what others say?

Yes, I told a funny. But lets not blame me for not putting it in the right forum. As I already stated, when you have people openly stating their comtempt for me, and coming back with direct insults with stronger language then I could ever get away with, it seems ironic to me that I continue to be piled on.

I ignore many comments directed at me. I tell one "southern' comment, and you have people falling over themselves to attack me. It's not really about my comment. We can at least acknowledge that.

As for my opinions on bees, if I am wrong, then tell me why. But to suggest that I can not, or should not, suggest that I am right, goes against what I feel every person should offer. Why tell your story, your opinion, your advice, if you do not feel it the correct thing? Just because 10 beekeepers give 10 responses, does not mean that all 10 are correct. It's for the reader to analyze, rationalize, and select the correct path for the solution based on the evidence and facts presented. I guess it just irked some when I suggested that perhaps discussions for two days did nothing to alleviate the situation through action. And this was the real rub some had. the humor was just the pathway for justification on jumping on me.

My advice was quit talking about it. Get the bees out of the screen. Get a beekeeper over to deal with it if needed. And try to save the bees before they all die since it was apparent they were stuck. But instead of it being a call for action to the homeowner, it was seen as nothing more than the first line of "quit talking about it" and then everybody assumed that education and discussion was the only reason the OP came here. But again, I suggest you read reply #4.

You don't like my way of offering my opinion, please pass on it. But lets not get all hung up on whether I placed the joke in the right forum. It goes deeper than that. It probably goes as far as my past comments about videos being posted, comments on Billy the exterminator, and other discussions. Jp does not like me for way more reasons than being over sensitive to a "southern" joke.

Go BILLY!  grin
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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2011, 06:36:02 AM »

I see a lot of immaturity coming into this thread from a bunch of grown or at least aged people.. Another thread with a bandwagon every one wants to jump on and be noticed. I am going to lock it for a bit and see if all of you can play nice when you come back. If not,maybe it's time to let the pieces fall where they may. May the swarm disperse. I'm not gonna moderate this crap all winter.

Robsee,sorry they all had to pick your post for a peeing match,it isn't always this way,nor is it gonna be!!
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« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2011, 11:15:21 AM »

First off, guys, remember that Bjorn is from north of the mason-Dixon line. You don't expect much from those folks. You just kinda smile and shake your head. Lord bless their little pea-pickin' hearts.

I just had to add that IDDEE's Comments about Northeners was a rude as anything Bjorn said in this post. For starters, I feel insulted to be generically tossed in with anyone because I live in Northern States.

Seriously, IDDEE and BJORN - you both are painting with too wide a brush and you are both insulting. I'll keep this post visible but leave it locked. But I need everyone to think just a second, take everything BOTH these me said and see where it could land them in the rules. Bjorn has had a warning and a slap on the wrist before - he's gonna find himself out of the forum with this conduct and IDDEE, I know you have old school thinking that in my opinion are bigoted and racist at times - do you really want to live up to stereotypes that do nothing but make you seem a hundred years behind the times, while Bjorn just comes of as an ass for starting trouble over and over again, that is my humble opinion?! Since name calling seemed to be the theme of this post, I thought it fitting to at least express how I feel about Bjorn. Of course, I'm just another member, as all the mods are - that's why we have rules and Bjorn, you've had a good run here, all personal feelings aside, but you are now getting into your old habit of jabbing someone and then playing poor Bjorn when you get response. Seen that movie again and again, and I can only watch any movie so many times before I erase if from my computer. You want to talk code, that should be an easy on to figure out.

Iddee... you are a product of upbringing, any biases you have toward anyone is in your bloodstream, that doesn't make it any more acceptable. I'm conservative and yet chose to live in a very racially diverse neighborhood - if you open your eyes enough, you start to realize there are two types of Americans, those who work hard to live the American and those who leech off the system. Most of the prior type rarely differ from location to location, they don't make the headlines, they live their lives and do the right things to someday retire and spend life playing with the grand-kids or seeing the country.

The latter, they milk us for all we have, make the papers, rob and steel and find themselves in jail or if they play it quiet, they just milk Welfare until Social Security final kicks in. Rather than blanket trash people who try and live the American Dream just because they are Yankees, aim you despise to the slugs that drain our tax dollars - these are all colors of people, from all 50 states, they aren't grouped by anything except they have learned how to screw us.

There are truly needy and they deserve all the help we can give, wounded vets, those born severally handicapped and by our own laws spouses who's mate die and have you kids to feed. These are the people who need us, the others are users and abusers.

But to BOTH OF YOU - if you look i this forum and see anyone who is milking the system and have done so for many decades, than I doubt they are beekeepers - they are people who work to buy expensive equipment, try vesting in a hobby or business and do it WHERE they live, how the Hell is that something you can sit with a straight face and say is soooo different from you. It is arrogant of you both. We are hard working people, trying to survive a nearly impossible economy - try playing on the same team instead of letting you Grand-father's bigotry sway your thinking. Grow up, both of you.

I think both of you are better than stirring the pot, and I look forward to not reading such garbage from either of you again. 3 pages of people digging in the crawl of others is enough and as one of those above the Mason Dixon line, Iddee I took offense to that - mainly cause you bundled me in the same bag as Bjorn
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