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« on: July 23, 2011, 01:01:15 AM »

When hiving a new swarm should i screen off the entrance for a day or two ? It will be a new box/frames/foundation ect

Or should i be good to just hive them and let them do as they wish ? No reducer ?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2011, 03:27:14 AM »

Don't block the entrance. They need to get oriented and start foraging. Place a frame of brood and another frame of honey in your new box to get them started and reduce the chances of them absconding.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2011, 01:14:07 PM »

I would keep the queen locked up in a queen catcher for a day or two to deter absconding and/or use a frame of brood mentioned above.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 01:27:38 PM »

If you don't have a queen catcher or aren't good at finding the queen, you can put a queen excluder between the bottom board and brood nest for a few days to keep the queen from leaving.  You can take the queen excluder after a few days, after the girls have gotten used to the new box.

Adding a frame of brood and/or honey stores, if you have other hives you can take them from, is also very helpful way to make the swarm want to stay in its new digs.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 01:35:28 PM »

the excluder under the bottom box is the easiest.  i'd keep the entrance reduced to some extent for a few days but not closed.  the frame of brood and/or honey is a good way to go.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 01:52:29 PM »

Due to the weather  and the fact that i didnt have a excluder i dumped them in and just hoping for the best. its raining now. So they should hold tight this weekend.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 02:19:39 PM »

if they stay, leave them alone for a week and then check for a queen.  if you don't see signs of one put a frame of eggs in there.  if it's raining and you don't think they are going to be able to forage, you'll want to think about feeding them.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 04:50:08 PM »

I gave them a 1:1 sugar water when I hived them.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 10:03:34 PM »

I've had mixed results using a queen excluder as an "includer".  When they swarm, the queen is slimmed down for flight and can sometimes get through the excluder!  A queen cage or a queen catcher with SMALL slots is a safer bet.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 10:23:35 PM »

Went out to give them more feed. And they were for the most part inside !!  grin

I shure hope they stay. I mean they were living on a fence post for 2 dyas. This hive has got to look better ! The Buck wheat and other flowers are about to bloom all around them. Aprox 1 acer worth and there located directly across from a nurcery farm with tons of flowers ! What better could they want ?
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 11:08:50 PM »

I have never had a swarm abscond when I put a frame of brood and honey in the box. They don't leave what they think are their babies.  delivery
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 11:29:16 PM »

Wish I could just buy one frame of each it would make things easyr.
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