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« on: June 23, 2011, 10:04:02 PM »

I had been toying with the idea of getting some more Bee's, as my understanding of them increases my desire to have more grows.  Well to cut a long story short, three of the strongest Nuc's I've ever seen were delivered to my front door from Kangaroo Island last thursday. Wow they are the busiest, cleanest Bee's I've ever seen.
Even though its winter here and around 15 degrees Celsius they are haulin in the Pollen and are flat out.  They make my other three hives look lazy.  I can't wait until Spring.

I have no one else to tell so thought I would share my delight.

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 10:49:44 PM »

Hey Steve, that's great news mate! nothing more exciting that watching your bees hard at work!
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 01:11:47 AM »

Good stuff my buggas are all asleep for the winter

Do see em on the odd occasion when it warms up a bit

But it dont happen often down here in the winter
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 02:53:55 AM »

would love some more info
who did you get them from?
how much for postage, KI queen bees advertise them for $130 plus GST, but i don't know about postage
how was the survival rate?   we're not in an express post area, i wonder how they'd survive
i'm interested in trying different genetics
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 03:28:47 AM »

Hi guys thanks for the comments. Hi Tina, I got my nucs from Stephen Heatley from Kangaroo Island and these Bee's are goers!!
I must be a lucky fella because Steve delivered them to my front door himself. He was on his way to Brissy QLD to deliver some other nucs and I was lucky enough to secure three on his way through cool.

The price you quoted is right and he is a real nice bloke. As far as fatalities, there were very few I think from what Steve said he had broken up the trip with a few stops to give the girls a fly.

They really look the goods and are just amazing how active they are.

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Steve
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 03:58:06 AM »

Thanks  please keep us updated on progress   lovely to hear success stories
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2011, 06:54:54 AM »

I will let you know how they go with SHB which is my biggest problem here.

I think I will put traps in two of the nucs and leave the other alone and monitor closely.

Beer time
Cheers Steve
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 11:05:51 PM »

Hi Steve, you should be very happy with your K.I. bees. I purchased 2 nucs from Stephen back in August last year and then a new Queen in March for another hive. You will find them good to work with as they are a fairly placid bee.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 02:11:24 AM »

Hi KrustyBee, thats good to hear about your KI Bees beeing placid, I'm hoping mine are the same, I still can't get over how hard they work there incredible.

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Steve
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 11:15:38 PM »

Them there bees gotta work hard to keep warm up near Dubbo. Going through next W/E. It is a very chilly place in June/July.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2011, 01:46:56 AM »

Not wrong,it get cold here for sure.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2011, 08:42:07 PM »

hi
  got ten kI queens sent to me last year all ten were alive when they reached me out at westmare qld.had to nurse them along to do with all the floods we had the tree didnt flower.i put them in to nucs and they all took okay.touch wood i haven't lost any yet . been feeding them since i made them up .noticed allthe box have budded up early this season out her.could be in for a good spring.
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 10:49:13 PM »

I hear ya about all the tree's covered in buds but no flowers quite a strange year for sure.  I agree I reckon spring is going to crack.

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2011, 08:29:12 PM »

How do they like the tropical clime, Westie?
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2011, 06:15:58 PM »

Well I checked out one of my new nucs and found it to be queen-less and no brood,But heaps of Bee's.  After a little bit of panic at the possibility of losing my hive I got it together I think.

I went to my strongest new nuc and took a strong frame of brood which had the smallest eggs in the hive.
After I removed all of the nurse Bee's I placed this frame in the middle of my Queen less hive.

What I am concerned about is that at the moment it is Winter here and there are no Drones to be seen, but I did see some sealed Drone cells in my Queen-less hive. So would there still be feral Drones looking for a Queen at this time of the year?

I suppose I will have to wait and see.

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Steve

 
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2011, 08:44:04 PM »

G'day Steve,

If you're in doubt as to the success of any emergency queen that might be produced then i would suggest combining your queenless hive with a queenright hive and then, when you have sufficient drones flying, take some frames of capped brood, a frame of open eggs and shake a few frames of bees, in to an empty nuc and then let them raise an emergency queen and give her a greater chance at being successfully mated.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2011, 08:50:45 PM »

Yeah good advise OzBuzz, I will leave then alone for a week and check for Queen cells, and then wait another 4 and check it out.  Then do the combine if I have to, Bee Keeping two steps forward and one back!

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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2011, 11:03:11 PM »

Hello Anybrew,

I don't quite understand.  You said the hive is queenless but has capped brood?  Is it only drone brood or worker brood too?  If there is capped brood the queen could have only disappeared a short time ago, or the alternative is she's cut down on laying for the winter.  That's happened a bit here when we had a cold spell recently, and your temperatures are probably a little lower than ours.  I've also found it really hard here to balance the fact that nucs won't forage as much because they don't have the numbers and then the queen won't lay as much because there's not as much food coming in.  Have you thought about feeding?
Let us know what happens.

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2011, 01:40:12 AM »

Hi Lone, there is about 10 to 15 capped drone cells, no worker cells with either eggs,grubs etc.  I thought that these capped drone cells would be layed by a worker..........?? I Know a Queen can also choose to lay Drones (lol)
When these Drone hatch they would be just normal drones wouldn't they? So they could mate with the emergency Queen that I am trying to get?

They have heaps of stores and are pulling in Pollen like maniacs.  Maybe you could be right about the Queen simply not laying, I hadn't thought about that.

I suppose when I check for Queen cells next week that should be a fair indication as to whether there is a Queen in there having a rest..
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2011, 07:44:32 AM »

Hello Anybrew,

Apparently drone brood takes 3 days longer to hatch, so these might be just the last of the brood.  A queen lays drone eggs when the conditions are right, and a few drones are a sign of a healthy hive. If you don't see any hatched drones in the hive, maybe they have had a drone kill, which they will do for instance when it's cold or not enough supplies.  But if you notice drones in any of your hives, there will certainly be more around in the bush.  It's unlikely you have a laying worker, because she'd be laying a lot more drone brood than what you've got.  What are your temperatures at the moment?
Remember that cold climate hives basically hibernate for the winter, so try not to worry about a queen not laying or even a queenless hive.  You said there are good numbers of bees, so you probably just need to observe what is happening for a while as you are doing.  Try not to disturb them too much during the time period they might be making an emergency queen. I lost a queen once and they basically filled the hive up with pollen, so it's hard to know if they are simply excited about the eggs you added or it's a sign of queenlessness!  And can you hear them sounding upset like they do when they have no queen?  I am no good at working out the different noises.
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2011, 08:07:56 PM »

Yo Lone, some good points there that you raised thanks.  The temps here are about -1 to 4 degrees of a night and top out at about 19 during the day.  From what you said I might just leave them alone(haha) for at least a month.  The hive is full of Bee's and stores and there is still pollen to be found. I haven't seen any Drones down this way for months out of my 6 hives.

Noise wise they are quiet but they are working hard.

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Steve
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2011, 10:41:18 PM »

Well five days after I placed a frame of brood in my Nuc I finally opened it today.  I expect to see some Queen cells but NO!
Some of the brood frame has hatched and the rest are developing well. However no new eggs.

I searched the hive and found a queen just walking around on frame number 1, no where near the brood.
She did look young, so I am hoping she is will start laying soon, or she could be a virgin.
I am just going to leave them alone for three weeks.

ps. They have heaps of stores .

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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2011, 02:26:03 AM »

Well what a great day!, it was about 18 degrees C and it was time to go around my 6 Hives.
I first went to the Queen less Nuc and got a pleasant surprise of three frames full of eggs,grubs and sealed brood!! grin

The rest of my Hives were check and all Queen right.  My strongest Hive was booming, I had reduced it to a eight frame deep for winter. It is full of Bee's,brood and honey.  They had even build a mass of capped honey comb on top of the frames what a mess.

So I added a super of foundation and frame of honey, Its been a funny winter here with many species of tree's starting to flower already.
I will just see what happens.

Kampai

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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2011, 11:32:23 PM »

I'm glad you found your Queen! it may not be that she is young - she probably just reduced her laying over winter. Were the Queens marked when you got them? it's possible that you had a queen all along but she just wasnt laying much. I had a few hives before winter that literally were laying nothing - to the point of me thinking they were queenless - i inspected a few weekends ago and i had a 100% re-queen success as all the hives had a happy laying queen. In situations where you can't find fresh eggs and you can't find the queen sometimes temperament/sound of the hive can be an indication... the best way to find out for sure is to do as you did and put a frame of eggs in there and see what they do with it... congratulations though mate! all the best for the coming season!
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2011, 12:32:15 AM »

Thanks OzBuzz, the new KI queens were not marked, I do mark my queens when I re queen as it is so much easier to spot a marked queen.

I think it will be a good season as my hives are humming at the moment its like an early spring this way, I hope you have a good season too.

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2011, 08:01:04 PM »

In situations where you can't find fresh eggs and you can't find the queen sometimes temperament/sound of the hive can be an indication...
What should this sound like? Newbee here and I haven't been able to discern a difference in sounds, it all just sounds like buzzing to me! embarassed
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2011, 03:19:36 AM »

A demoralised hive is very quiet. A sprightly hive has a hum and an active hive has a very deep excited high humming sound.
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2011, 10:11:30 PM »

Good, thanks Mardak, I'll keep a better ear out now.
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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2011, 10:39:01 PM »

In situations where you can't find fresh eggs and you can't find the queen sometimes temperament/sound of the hive can be an indication...
What should this sound like? Newbee here and I haven't been able to discern a difference in sounds, it all just sounds like buzzing to me! embarassed

Mardak, would you not agree though that a Queenless hive has an almost defensive kinda roar about it? It sounds very different to a queen right hive...  I agree with the sprightly hive sound but even a very active hive should have a mellow, almost melodic, relaxed, steady hum about it...
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