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Mike Tuggle
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« on: June 06, 2011, 10:01:13 AM »
OK, here is a question for the more experienced of us in moving swarms.  Another case of "bees will be bees."

I picked up a swarm yesterday -- an 8-pounder about 20' up in a white pine.  I did a shake and dump into a bucket and then into the box.  After a while the girls on the outside of the box were doing the "queen's here" posture. Still, there were a few hundred that when shook, still continued to go back and cluster on the tree. I just couldn't convince them to come down even after climbing the tree and trying to brush them into a small bucket.

Can't understand the clustering if I had the queen in my box.

Hived them this morning and all looked fine for a while.  Came out after breakfast and there was crazy activity and there was heavy bearding on one of my hives where I missed a swarm last week.  See: http://FileLibrary.MYAASite.Com/Content/0/499/35107847.jpg  Another hour later, and the top bar I loaded is all but empty and the lang is seriously humming and the beard is almost gone.

Could the swarm have simply decided to move next door?
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 10:57:48 AM »
like this?

http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,33304.0.html
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 10:59:57 AM »
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Can't understand the clustering if I had the queen in my box.


that happens all the time.  either scouts returning, or bees going back to the scent of the queen.  some are stubborn that way....and you may have missed the queen.  sometimes they act like she's in the box, but she's not.  that might explain why they would join another hive.  did you see the queen?
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 12:10:13 PM »
That video really captures what happened this morning! 

No, I did not see the queen, simply made an assumption based on fanning postures and how satisfied they were with my "shake" box.

Out there a little wile ago and it's like nothing ever happened.  Top Bar is empty and the Lang girls have normal, if heavy, traffic.  Smiley
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