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« on: May 28, 2011, 06:40:18 PM »

Hi Everyone:

I just played with a design logo for tee-shirts with front and back lettering and want to know your opinion. These babies aren't cheap, except in bulk and even then you have no choices of mixing sizes or colors - if you ordered 50, you get 50 of the same size and color shirts.

But for years, many of you have asked about shirts and I'm just curious what you think of this simple "I'm a Beemaster Every Day!!!" phrase on the front, and layout on the back. Any input welcome.






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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 07:21:14 PM »

works for me, but no pink, red, orange....  evil
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 07:23:08 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 08:02:16 PM »

Works for me John. I don't know who you are talking to or the prices but I am posting a link to a company that I have used for my company shirts. They were very accommodating with mixing sizes and colors and I thought reasonable in price.

I am with kathy on the pink. Red and orange maybe.


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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 08:18:46 PM »

What about using cafe press?  I don't think that's expensive because it's pay as you go.  They don't make them until ordered.  http://www.cafepress.com/

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 09:22:32 PM »

What about using cafe press?  I don't think that's expensive because it's pay as you go.  They don't make them until ordered.  http://www.cafepress.com/

Linda T in Atlanta


Linda:

CafePress is where I designed this demo - a basic mans t-shirt printed both sides was $32, not to mention almost enough shipping to get it to $40 - that is a lot for a shirt. Bulking it saves about $7 per shirt, that is where the no size/color comes in.

I haven't checked deeply into the custom 2 sided "store" option (really not thinking of it except possibly for a fund raiser if we ever needed one) although I know lots of the active members would love to have a Forum shirt.

Artwork isn't an issue, I'm good at that and could get a lot more creative than just text, but I would never want any member to have to shell out a fortune for a t-shirt. It just gets to "business like" something I'd rather not do - I was kinda asking if anyone liked the basic shirt I tossed together, not looking for early orders.

But, I'll look into CafePress's order as you go thingy (anyone doing it now that can give me realistic prices is appreciated) I just don't see "yet" how anyone can afford to do this without the only one profiting is the T-shirt companies.

Thanks to everyone so far for the input - more certainly welcome and I am also gonna look at the other printer listed above as well. Thank youz.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 09:26:39 PM »

I'm all about a cool tshirt, but if you asking for suggestions...how about just a small design/logo of the left chest, then your beemaster.com on the back? Seems like huge screenprints on the front stick to you like glue when its hot.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 09:37:20 PM »

Do you have an Industries for the blind and deaf in your area.  We have the Alabama Industries for the Blind and Deaf located here in my hometown.  They produce shirts and windbreakers at a very reasonable price and they do great work I use them for my company tee's and pullovers.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 10:15:38 PM »

Well... I'm setting up a store front at cafepress, see how that goes. I'm just doing it for now at least to see what is involved.

I don't know if I mentioned, do you like the (for yourself) the slogan "I'm a Beemaster Every Day!!!" I believe every beekeeper is a beemaster in their own yards. That slogan has nothing to do with me or the site - I think it a statement a member can make about the importance of who they are and what they do whether you have one hive or thousands. You are the masters of your domain and I just think you should be proud of that fact - hope that makes sense?!

Good advice on larger artwork sticking to you, I know what you mean. I see many options for t-shirts, mugs, on and on available - if this is something the membership would want, I'd gladly set it up for a percentage of the product to go directly toward the forums member's donation fund (which lately I gratefully say has had some very nice contributions) if I haven't gotten to you through email to thank you, I promise I'm catching up.

This forum is profit free and will stay that way, but if we can build a nest egg capable of keeping our site running with funds to handle any growth that benefits the members, I think that is a good thing.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 10:29:59 PM »

Way Cool Shirt  cool Can't wait to see what you can come up with.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 11:17:12 PM »

I would like it to say on the front "BeeMaster" and nothing else. The back is good just the way it is.

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 11:59:33 PM »

I would like it to say on the front "BeeMaster" and nothing else. The back is good just the way it is.

Annette


Okay.... I'm burnt out playing, but threw this together - conceptual mind you, but looked for vibrant colors - serious work in progress playing around, but her goes Annette.



night all Smiley

Oh.... I thought I'd try an insulated soda can holder - think I really like this one Smiley



kinda tugs at the heart strings don't it - lol.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2011, 03:03:02 AM »

Can I get a cooler that says 'Im proud to bee-nuts"

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2011, 04:45:57 AM »

Wanna talk bees?

Beemaster.com
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Or

Good Friends Are As Sweet As Honey

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I like these, not too pushy and piques interest.


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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2011, 05:45:24 PM »

How about "I Train Bees" on the front with the BeeMaster forum info on the back?

Light brown or tan shirt with gold letters.

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When you get this worked out it should be added to the forum sight for a means of members to order the different offerings in shirts, hats, bottons, and other accessories to support the forum.  I just bought a hat and shirt for ARRL Field Day, so I think the idea is workable. 

I do like rbinhood's idea, that way we support the handicapped as well as the forum.
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2011, 10:15:02 PM »

I think we need a contest, or a poll. We can drive you crazy for sure John, or else you just decide.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2011, 10:32:42 AM »

I like the feedback for sure Annette!!!

I have a post up in Coffeehouse http://www.cafepress.com/beemaster where I put three products together using a catch phrase posted long ago (don't remember who) but I learned a lot about working with dots-per-inch and sizing and image type for clean font reproduction, and on and on last night and put it to work.

Here is an actual page (not saying the products will be there forever or that they won't change as we nail some slogans) rotating the slogans is really needed at this site because they only allow one artwork on a given item. So, if I had two great themes for a coffee mug, I could only do one at a time.

But this site works, good for learning how this is all done and I think I got three items on there that look pretty cool - let me know what you think. I ordered 2 of the coffee mugs just to see how well they come out and besides, it's the closest thing I have to a vanity item EXCEPT for the great t-shirt the Buzzbees gave me a few years back.

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2011, 10:59:16 AM »

i think Annettes' idea is good.  contest or poll or poll after some good ideas from the contest  grin
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2011, 11:16:42 AM »

John, have you tried vistaprint.com ? They have shirts (one side print) for less than $10.

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2011, 08:13:24 PM »

Small beemaster logo @ pocket area of shirt minus pocket. Large design on back. This makes for a better dress casual look, my 2cents, instead of the large look at me writing on front and John you know just how large I am grin Folks would run from writing that size.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2011, 08:36:24 PM »

Thanks Steve... Miss you by the way, hope all is good?

I had a new coworker who worked at the state aquarium (actually now privatized) but anyway, the had a Happy Birthday t-shirt for their HIPPO and he brought a bunch of shirts into work, lucky for all of us they were 3X's. I don't think they have anything above that sadly, I do great (actually fits good) in the 3X but I know a lot of people that couldn't get it over their chests.

I checked and I have 2 things I ordered (one that was a "Visionary and Founder can thermos" the title given to me by Dallas, a title that I love to death, in my normally humble way  grin

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I checked and I have 2 things I ordered (one that was a "Visionary and Founder can thermos" the title given to me by Dallas, a title that I love to death, in my normally humble way  grin


Well, just look what your Beemaster idea grew to be. I think Ive said it before, but when I first became interested in bees, I searched package installation on Youtube and yours was the first video that I watched. Now get those gears turning again and come up with some good merchandise Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2011, 08:27:43 AM »

I'm all about a cool tshirt, but if you asking for suggestions...how about just a small design/logo of the left chest, then your beemaster.com on the back? Seems like huge screenprints on the front stick to you like glue when its hot.

I like the idea about a small logo on the front maybe with a bee pic.  Also it would be nice to have a front pocket.
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 04:07:15 PM »

Trimmed this some.....

Here is the demo photo below I showed earlier I this post:



Well.... This can holder came today and WOW is it nice!!! It is by Thermos and stainless inside and out with an air barrier for insulation. It looks EXACTLY like the demo above, although photographing stainless isn't easy. I came up with this photo.

I am really pleased with the printing the did, and the non-slip grip at the top. It doesn't sweat either. Very high quality which makes me feel good about the other stuff coming Smiley Here is one of the better photos I took. Now that I see how nice it is, I'm gonna get that "Visionary and Founder" can holder I was talking about - cool!!!





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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 05:03:39 PM »

I like it!  Looks very nifty.  Just one thing, it does hold BEER cans too doesn't it?   grin

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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2011, 05:33:54 PM »

want tshirts let me know I have a guy that does em for cheap, and is really good, he does merch shirts and stuff for bands
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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2011, 11:10:04 PM »

Ron:

The whole trick is to:
1) have no setup fees, as in silk screening
2) be able to do 1 item at a time, not bulk
3) drop ship directly to the buyer
4) have auto deposits for sales made to the original seller
5) remove all the hassle of handling items, inventor, all costs associated with selling.
6) easy online secure ordering.

Literally, we need to have an online store, maintained by a third party company who handles payments, printing, packaging and shipping - also offers free tracking - LITERALLY a ordering service that makes the buying experience pain free to the customers.

Please PM me if you want if your fella can do all that. It comes down to the price of doing business, but Frankly I want nothing to do with the handling and shipping end of any of this - I'm looking for a service that is well established and has incredible customer feedback. As mentioned above, I have order several things, a few t-shirts and coffee mugs (which are now on the way) and the can thermos which is here and it is serious quality from the basic thermos to the printing which is EXACTLY what I expected.

It gets down to one thing and one thing only... Would I buy things again through Cafepress and the answer is 100% yes (so far, we still have a few items coming) but if they match in quality the thermos, then I believe they are an incredible USA Company from Louisville, KY who hires Americans and that is seriously a thumbs up from me!

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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2011, 07:42:44 AM »

I love CafePress - I have several shirts about beekeeping from them - some included in your sample picks when you searched beekeeping items.  I own Understudy's 'Have a swarm? Nuc 'em" shirt, 2 bee or not 2 bee, keeper of the bees, and a couple of others.  I also ordered the clock with the bees on honeycomb - I've given it away for presents, own one myself, and gave it as my contribution to our gift exchange at the bee club last year.

I only had one problem and that is a clock that didn't work - the big hand didn't move.  I asked to exchange it and they sent me TWO new clocks and didn't want the broken one back.

Great company, at least from my experience.

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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2011, 08:11:50 AM »

Going back "a page" I really like JP's scripting for the shirts -- unless it was just BeeMaster.  We do want to "start a conversation."

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« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2011, 12:39:00 PM »

Welll...... Checked the TRACKING after getting emails from Cafepress.com and my T-Shirts are on the way! Expected delivery day by Wednesday, which coincidentally is the same day my coffee mugs will arrive.

I'll have a youtube video up showing the items for everyone to judge quality and use their imagination to help in the contest for best slogan, artwork (or photos) and the most request Beemaster product - 2012 Calendar using the photos of the members,

Mind you, use your imagination on the calendar and have months in mind surely we don't want a workers collecting pollen in January, so even though I'll be arranging the images to best serve the calendar layout, we will need images for all seasons.

Next I want you to imagine the sizes of the product's, and  if it is a 2.5X5 inch  - and if you are doing images or photos or drawings, it is important to give the HIGHEST RESOLUTION POSSIBLE, so that shrinking them will improve the artwork and fonts.

At the site www.cafepress.com, they give you minimal setting for the overall artwork and slogan. You don't need to be a pro digital artist - but I have chosen 300dpi (they as for at least 200) and give you the exact dimensions you need to work with. And if you use Paint.net (actual name) then you MUST choose resolution (300dpi) first that image size.  Remember too that you are working in INCHES not PIXELS - they cafepress gives you the dimensions and SOMETIMES you get two sizes....

1) Bleed - this is a  number that allows your image to expand past the limits of the image, so they can crop it to fit perfectly and

2) actually size - this is as it states, the working parameters so that you have EXACTLY what you need to stay in. Many image editing programs have the same limits that you need to establish prior to working with artwork. You CAN make artwork bigger, but then you need re-size the image to fit and this could/will mess up pixels, causing sharp jagged fonts and blurry images.

So read the info, you don't need to open a store, you can just go in and get the specs and go from there. You can also SAVE your ARTWORK (no charge and limited info required) and go back to it later. But keep it in your drive, makes for finding so simple.

Lastly - hand drawing it/them and posting it here is easier too - I can always do the final cuts. The members want nice stuff, I hope to give it to them in many styles and of course add them to the collective of images (that 36,000 image collection) that has LOTS of nifty ideas to work off of too.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2011, 04:07:08 PM »

Today my Coffee Mugs came!!! Tomorrow, T-shirts Smiley

Here are a few snapshots I took, just to show it off a bit. They did an incredible job and I'll be keeping one in my locker at work and the other here at home. I'll post a couple pics, the ones generated by the website are very realistic, but not as razor sharp as on the mugs themselves.







well.... how do they look.

I'm also going to post a ROUGH logo I have stuck in my head - I have the term Beemaster.com where the "B" is actually a drawing of a bee's profile in the shape of the Capital "B" - it is rough, but I think it is really a cool idea, something that would look great (when drawn well) as a logo for shirt pockets, where ever Beemaster.com is placed on an object. That rough logo coming after I trim the other drawings from the image.

How's the mug look though, I like it, and vanity paraphernalia is serious cool Smiley

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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2011, 04:46:42 PM »

Can't wait for the shirts.   Good looking mugs there.
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