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« on: June 14, 2005, 10:35:01 AM »
I posted yesterday & I agree that I had young bees taking orientating & poo flights. Today I am scheduled to do my inspections, seeing we saw the new girls flying yesterday, should I give them time to do some adjusting or stay on track & do my inspections? Thnx
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2005, 10:48:31 AM »
I think that once they get established, you will continue to see orientation flight. they're gonna continue to raise new bee's  :)

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2005, 12:11:40 PM »
I don't see any reason that you can't inspect as usual.  Just be sure that when you shake/brush bees from a frame that you do so in a way that they get inside the hive.

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2005, 12:11:47 PM »
It is important to look once a week , what is happening in the hive. It is learning. If you feel that you must se more, so you look in.

You will see, that first bee draw upp combs. Queen lay eggs. Soon limits are met and nothing happens. Just wait. After 3 weeks new bees begin to emerge and one hive can enlarge it's brood area. Hive bees take thier place an d old ones gathet pollen and honey.

What is important so see in little hive that there is free combs to queen lay eggs. If not, it will swarm. If hive is full, you must take fod frames away and you give foundations to build.

When one box is full of bees you put second  box  lowest and bees can enlarge there. An so on.

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2005, 12:18:38 PM »
Finsky,

your last comment raises a question
when starting a new hive, when the first box get's full, do you add the next box above or below the original?

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2005, 12:20:24 PM »
let me add to that
obviously if you're adding supers they go on top
I mean if the new box is intended to be part of brood chamber

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2005, 12:55:04 PM »
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Finsky,

your last comment raises a question
when starting a new hive, when the first box get's full, do you add the next box above or below the original?
Dave


Our climate is quite cold. If you put 100 % more space over brood, bees have difficulties to keep brood warm. Often they destroy the lowest larvas.

When I put empty box below, brood temperature will not disturb. Bees occupy their new space as soon as they are able.  Think the nature...they enlarge  downwards.

When hive is 2- 3 box and honey is coming in, I put medium super on top. If it is cold first summer, I put  third box below or in the middle.

After that hives are so strong  I put supers on top.

Just now our temperature is here  59F.

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2005, 01:42:58 PM »
Interesting point, Finsky.  Here in Ohio we tell our students to put the second brood box of undrawn foundation on top when a new hive has drawn out most of the first brood box.  On occasion, Spring in Ohio can be quite cold (we've had snow on Easter more than a few times).  Perhaps we would be wiser to add our brood boxes on the bottom...

Hmmm.   :)

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2005, 02:23:45 PM »
>Think the nature...they enlarge downwards.

This is true, but the books all say they elarge updwards.  I've given a package three medium boxes of frames to work with and they always start at the top and work down.  I've added a box of foundationless frames without any drawn comb in it and had they start building combs on the bottom bar and up from there with nothing attched to the top.  Obviously it was not natural for them. :)
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2005, 02:25:56 PM »
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Perhaps we would be wiser to add our brood boxes on the bottom


Make an experiment. Add to 5 hive on top and to 5 hive to bottom. After 3 weeks  you will see  the result. Chalk brood is more obvious in another group.

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2005, 04:11:49 PM »
hehe
X number of beekeepers
X + 1 number of ideas  :)
I'm not in a positions to experiment, I only have 1 hive
it consisted of 2 deeps nicely drawn out (on plastic foundation) and doing well
I'm trying to transition to SC and mediums boxes at the same time
so I made a medium box of SC starter strips
I initially planed to put it on the bottom, but my buddy was here when I did it and he conviced me to stick it in the middle
it's 92F here today so I doubt chilling the brood is an issue
we shall see, I definatley want to migrate the mediums to the bottom over time so the deeps pop off the top. I'll be adding another medium with SC starter strips in a couple of weeks
the adventure continues

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2005, 04:38:47 PM »
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hehe
X number of beekeepers
X + 1 number of ideas  :)

Not that way.   :D
20 beekeepers and different 100 ideas. Still bees get same measure honey with different methods.

Why? Because the honey is in flowers and you cannot get it more with your tricks.


Beekeeper must be stupporn and always right.  If you are not, try it and it feels good  8)

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2005, 03:39:06 PM »
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hehe
X number of beekeepers
X + 1 number of ideas  :)


 :) I thought it was like this:

X number of beekeepers
+ one question
= X different answers (and all right!)
 :lol:

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2005, 05:03:54 PM »
Quote from: John G

 :) I thought it was like this:

X number of beekeepers
+ one question
= X different answers (and all right!)
 :lol:


Yeah! That is near by correct. I have never heard ideas from beekeepers, only facts   8)

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If you asked something from stressed people, typican answer is "I don't know".  A man with dementia never use that expression.