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Author Topic: Pot calling the kettle black.....obama irony.  (Read 8409 times)
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« on: March 09, 2011, 03:01:50 PM »

One of the first things I heard from Obama when he was first elected was the comment "We won!" in denigrating the republicans in the first meeting.

Since that time, Pennsylvanians have been claimed by Obama to "Cling to their guns and religion".

And not to long ago, I was directly called an "enemy" by the supposed "president" of this country.

So now in April, Obama and Michelle, will be keynote speakers at a "anti-bullying" conference in Washington.

So I'm curious. Is this directed at the union thugs that mobbed the congressman in Wisconsin recently? Perhaps the new black panthers carrying clubs and denying folks the opportunity to vote in Philadelphia? Or perhaps this is a self intervention for the President and first lady?

Anyhow....perhaps a big ol' mirror, big enough to show obama his own bullying, and large enough to keep him from peeking around it and digging round my family and other people's lives, would be just large enough.

Bullying starts from looking at others as something different. The way they dress. The way they speak. Who they are. Where they come from. And even to their religion.

Obama has gone after folks in the same manner of a second grader picking on a new kid at school on the playground. I find it ironic for a president to call me out the way he has, and even labeled me as an enemy, and still would have the gall and audacity, to think he has the intelligence to tell others about bullying.

Oh...the irony!  grin

Maybe coming from Chicago, his definition of "bullying" is different from mine. I wish he would go back to Chicago real soon.  grin

An anti-bullying conference in Washington.  rolleyes A good place to start. Unfortunately, the message will be for the "other" folks I'm sure.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 04:13:02 PM »

feel better?

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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 05:41:38 PM »

I certainly feel better, thanks Bjorn!
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 06:19:28 PM »

That's just the tip of the iceberg..........


If George W. Bush had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than
two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If George W.. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10
years, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even
read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?
If George W. Bush joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the
United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration,
would you question his patriotism and wonder who's side he was on?


If George Bush had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse would you
think him an idiot?

   
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If George W. Bush had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing
a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the
best safety records of any industry because one company had an accident would
you have agreed?

If George W. Bush had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium
that would render 87000 American workers unemployed would you support him?

   

If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a TelePrompTer
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed
and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really
controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura
Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock
by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics,
would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and
historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos
of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and
tacky?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have
approved?

If George W.. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?
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If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people
who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had stated that there were 57 states in the United States
, would you have said that he is clueless.

If George W. Bush would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five
minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front
door in Texas , would you have thought he was a self important, conceited,
egotistical jerk.
   

If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de
Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco
de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have
winced in embarrassment?

If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single
tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over
millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing
widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what
happened on 9-11?

If George W.. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans ,
would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of
racism and incompetence?

If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly
to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in
America , would you have approved.

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation,
even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have
approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and
impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 21
months -- so you'll have two years and two months to come up with an answer.
Every statement in this post is factual and directly attributable to
Barrack Hussein (Insane) Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely
verifiable.

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 06:45:46 PM »

george bush was one of the worst, if not the worst, president in the history of the usa...and certainly the most scandalous. 

obama has picked up right where bush and his capitalist cronies left off....

i wonder if bjorn was here calling george bush a bully back in the days when georgie was being a bully....or is bjorn just making this a dem vs. rep thing?  because philosophically the two are cut from the same cloth

they're all crooks, liars, thieves and pigs. 

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 07:02:44 PM »

Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel...He has been a journalist for 49 years. 
He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

Be sure to read the Tax List at the end.

This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat.  Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day.  It's a short but good read.  Worth the time.  Worth remembering!

                                545 vs. 300,000,000 People    -By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank. 

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.  No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating  deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want.  If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal  government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in  Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they  alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of  them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando  Sentinel  Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it... is up to you.
This might be funny if it weren't so  true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

                               Tax his land,
                               Tax his bed,
                               Tax the table,
                               At which he's fed.
                           
                               Tax his tractor,
                               Tax his mule,
                               Teach him taxes
                               Are the rule.
                           
                               Tax his work,
                               Tax his pay,
                               He works for
                               peanuts anyway!
                           
                               Tax his cow,
                               Tax his goat,
                               Tax his pants,
                               Tax his coat.
                       
                               Tax his ties,
                               Tax his shirt,
                               Tax his work,
                               Tax his dirt.
                       
                               Tax his tobacco,
                               Tax his drink,
                               Tax him if he
                               Tries to think.

                               Tax his cigars,
                               Tax his beers,
                               If he cries
                               Tax his tears.

                               Tax all he has
                               Then let him know
                               That you won't be done
                               Till he has no dough.

                               When he screams and hollers;
                               Then tax him some more,
                               Tax him till
                               He's good and sore.

                               Then tax his coffin,
                               Tax his grave,
                               Tax the sod in
                               Which he's laid...

                               Put these words
                               Upon his tomb,
                               'Taxes drove me
                               to my doom...'

                               When he's gone,
                               Do not relax,
                               Its time to apply
                               The inheritance tax.

                               Accounts Receivable Tax
                               Building Permit Tax
                               CDL license Tax
                               Cigarette Tax
                               Corporate Income Tax
                               Dog License Tax
                               Excise Taxes
                               Federal Income Tax
                               Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
                               Fishing License Tax
                               Food License Tax
                               Fuel Permit Tax
                               Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
                               Gross Receipts Tax
                               Hunting License Tax
                               Inheritance Tax
                               Inventory Tax
                               IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
                               Liquor Tax
                               Luxury Taxes
                               Marriage License Tax
                               Medicare Tax
                               Personal Property Tax
                               Property Tax
                               Real Estate Tax
                               Service Charge Tax
                               Social Security Tax
                               Road Usage Tax
                               Recreational Vehicle Tax
                               Sales Tax
                               School Tax
                               State Income Tax
                               State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
                               Telephone Federal Excise Tax
                               Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
                               Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
                               Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
                               Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
                                Telephone    State   and Local Tax
                               Telephone Usage Charge Tax
                               Utility Taxes
                               Vehicle License Registration Tax
                               Vehicle Sales Tax
                               Watercraft Registration Tax
                               Well Permit Tax
                               Workers Compensation Tax


STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

     What in the heck happened?  Can you spell 'politicians?'

I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!!  YOU can help it get there!!! 

                                         GO AHEAD. . .  BE AN AMERICAN!!!
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 07:09:43 PM »

And thinking back,the last time gas was this expensive,it was George Bushs fault.And Dick Cheneys.
This President wants high fuel costs.
Guantonimo is still open. I heard libs stating that it is George Bushs fault that Obama didn't close it as promised.
  This President will never accept responsibility for anything. He is so afraid to confront and call terrorist acts just what they are that we will probably see them escalate before he is out of office.
I predict more hostile kidnappings of Americans abroad and more threats right here in our home land.
  I hope and pray I am wrong.
 This man is not a leader.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 07:16:50 PM »

george bush was one of the worst, if not the worst, president in the history of the usa...and certainly the most scandalous. 

obama has picked up right where bush and his capitalist cronies left off....

i wonder if bjorn was here calling george bush a bully back in the days when georgie was being a bully....or is bjorn just making this a dem vs. rep thing?  because philosophically the two are cut from the same cloth

they're all crooks, liars, thieves and pigs. 




Touche' I don't know why people don't get this. There is no difference between the two parties, just two sides of the same coin. Just like in WWF, you have the supposed 'good guys' and 'bad guys'. But at the end of the day. they are both smokin' and jokin' at the bar, talking about how they fooled the audience.

If voting were on the level, it would be against the law. People need to realize that presidents and leaders of other countries are not elected but selected by the globalists to do their bidding or be assassinated (like JFK) or run out of the country (like in Egypt) if they don't. George W. comes from a long line of globalist criminals. His grandfather, Prescott Bush was in league helping Hitler. Look it up! Obama is no different. Staunch Democrats can't even recognize that Obama has expanded the Bush doctrine under left cover. To me it is hilarious how blind and easily divided some people allow themselves to be when proof/documentation is so readily available to support what is really going on. The news reports on the TV and in the major newspapers are the last place you should get your news from. They are bought and paid for by the very globalists that install presidents.

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 07:24:12 PM »

People should have known when they started passing bills in the middle of the night and on Christmas Eve when no one is watching that we were in trouble.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 07:29:11 PM »

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george bush was one of the worst, if not the worst, president in the history of the usa...and certainly the most scandalous. 


i can understand that some didn't like bush.  i can even agree with some of the reasons, but really?  worst and most scandalous?  right off the top of my head i can think of several that were either worse or most scandalous, or both.

maybe you can give some examples to back that up?
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 07:30:01 PM »

People should have known when they started passing bills in the middle of the night and on Christmas Eve when no one is watching that we were in trouble.

And every since that fateful Christmas Eve back in 1913 the powers that be via the IRS has been illegally robbing us of just about half our hard earned wages.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 07:38:05 PM »

george bush was one of the worst, if not the worst, president in the history of the usa...and certainly the most scandalous.  

obama has picked up right where bush and his capitalist cronies left off....

i wonder if bjorn was here calling george bush a bully back in the days when georgie was being a bully....or is bjorn just making this a dem vs. rep thing?  because philosophically the two are cut from the same cloth

they're all crooks, liars, thieves and pigs.  



I never said they were not.

But I never was called an ENEMY by any previous president.

Sure politics are crooked. That is how the game is played. But please don't get too bogged down rationalizing my comments on past presidents, while acting or suggesting that because what we had previously, is excuse for what happens today. Obama is the current pres.

Typical that people seeming are complacent in the hand dealt, by slicing, dicing, and rationalizing what was previous dealt. This does seem to be how some get through life. And it is exactly how and why, so many were fooled by the next come along slick willie sweet talking fool who happened to suggest to some that hope and change comes about by a community organizer, by those thinking the government was going to take care of them.

I was not disillusioned by the last president, and I was not fooled by this idiot. And I certainly will not be fooled by the next "utopia society" snake oil peddler, selling bottles of "I'll close GITMO" as a campaign promise.  Wink

I always find it ironic how mentioning something of the current administration, it always flies right back with comments of "Bush". And we wonder why we can never move forward.
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Touche' I don't know why people don't get this. There is no difference between the two parties, just two sides of the same coin. Just like in WWF, you have the supposed 'good guys' and 'bad guys'. But at the end of the day. they are both smokin' and jokin' at the bar, talking about how they fooled the audience.

If voting were on the level, it would be against the law. People need to realize that presidents and leaders of other countries are not elected but selected by the globalists to do their bidding or be assassinated (like JFK) or run out of the country (like in Egypt) if they don't. George W. comes from a long line of globalist criminals. His grandfather, Prescott Bush was in league helping Hitler. Look it up! Obama is no different. Staunch Democrats can't even recognize that Obama has expanded the Bush doctrine under left cover. To me it is hilarious how blind and easily divided some people allow themselves to be when proof/documentation is so readily available to support what is really going on. The news reports on the TV and in the major newspapers are the last place you should get your news from. They are bought and paid for by the very globalists that install presidents.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 09:34:16 PM »

idee,

i don't usually agree with much of what you post in the political realm (i'll even go so far as to say i object to much of it).

your reply #3 is spot on and i couldn't agree with you more.

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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 09:46:23 PM »

Deknow, maybe you and I are like Tecumseh and I. We never agree on anything other than bees, but respect each other as knowledgeable beekeepers, and have the common sense to let all the rest ride.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2011, 10:26:34 PM »

...letting things ride works...but i firmly believe that discussing hard issues with those we don't agree with is an important step towards understanding for all.  i find i can't always do this...sometimes due to my limitations, sometimes due to the limitations in others (or at least it seems that way to me)...but here, i saw some solid, common ground.  i thought i would point it out.

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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2011, 10:38:04 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2011, 07:12:38 AM »



Touche' I don't know why people don't get this. There is no difference between the two parties, just two sides of the same coin. Just like in WWF, you have the supposed 'good guys' and 'bad guys'. But at the end of the day. they are both smokin' and jokin' at the bar, talking about how they fooled the audience.

If voting were on the level, it would be against the law. People need to realize that presidents and leaders of other countries are not elected but selected by the globalists to do their bidding or be assassinated (like JFK) or run out of the country (like in Egypt) if they don't. George W. comes from a long line of globalist criminals. His grandfather, Prescott Bush was in league helping Hitler. Look it up! Obama is no different. Staunch Democrats can't even recognize that Obama has expanded the Bush doctrine under left cover. To me it is hilarious how blind and easily divided some people allow themselves to be when proof/documentation is so readily available to support what is really going on. The news reports on the TV and in the major newspapers are the last place you should get your news from. They are bought and paid for by the very globalists that install presidents.

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2011, 03:54:59 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2011, 07:24:02 PM »

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george bush was one of the worst, if not the worst, president in the history of the usa...and certainly the most scandalous. 


i can understand that some didn't like bush.  i can even agree with some of the reasons, but really?  worst and most scandalous?  right off the top of my head i can think of several that were either worse or most scandalous, or both.

maybe you can give some examples to back that up?



Hugh's list is a good place to start....http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

395. Lax oversight at the Office of Thrift Supervision contributed to bank failures
A November 23, 2008 Washington Post story reports that lax oversight by the Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS) allowed the savings and loan institutions it regulated to engage in dubious practices which led to $355.7 billion in thrift failures in 2008 and the need the to sell off other institutions to avoid failure. Thrifts are usually smaller than commercial banks and concentrate more on home loans. Even so, some of the names of institutions which failed or were sold are well known: IndyMac, Washington Mutual, and Countrywide, for example (see item 87).
Across the board, the Bush Administration aggressively deregulated financial markets. At the OTS this strategy was spearheaded by James Gilleran who headed the agency from 2001-2005. In his first 3 years, he cut OTS’s 1,200 staff by a quarter even as the value of the assets the agency oversaw increased by half. Banks were also allowed to draw down their reserves on average by a third to the lowest level in 20 years. To justify this, the OTS accepted unrealistic projections on what expected losses in the banks’ loan portfolios would be. At the time thrifts were making more and more higher risk adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs), the OTS permitted them to assess the risk of these in terms of their introductory low rate and not the higher rate to which the loans would ultimately convert. And no, these loans were not being to the poor. As part of Gilleran’s deregulation, government obligations to lend in low income communities were not strictly enforced.
The structure of the OTS was also at odds with its mission. It had an inherent and fatal conflict of interest. It was funded by the very banks it was tasked with regulating. The bigger the bank the bigger the contribution. So although the OTS oversaw some 750 banks, Washington Mutual (WaMu) alone paid 13% of its budget. The mortgage writer Countrywide which was actually recruited by the OTS to become a thrift on the promise that it would be loosely regulated accounted for another 5% of the OTS budget.
In short, the thrifts were paying the OTS not to regulate them, and in exchange for the budget it received from them the OTS turned a blind eye to their reckless behavior. This arrangement worked out very well until the thrifts crashed and burned. Who could have predicted . . .?
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Corruption, Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
396. Wrongdoing in the Air Marshal Service
The Air Marshal Service went from 33 agents and a $4.4 million budget before 9/11 to 3,000-4,000 marshals and a $786 million budget. During this time, it has had 3 different leaders and been moved to 4 different agencies. Since its expansion, some three dozen marshals have been charged with crimes and hundreds (753 already at the time of a 2004 Inspector General’s report) accused of misconduct, everything from drug smuggling, a marshal who tried to hire a hitman to kill his ex-wife, inappropriate use of firearms, drunk driving, human trafficking, corruption, and weapons smuggling.
A November 25, 2008 report by the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) reported that whistleblowers inside the Air Marshals Service were harassed for speaking out and that the Office of Special Counsel headed by the now fired Scott Bloch (item 153) did little to protect them.
This level of wrongdoing, chaos and mismanagement is pretty much what you would expect from Michael Chertoff’s Department of Homeland Security.
Posted in: Criminality, DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror, Whistleblower
397. Government OK’s dumping mining debris in and near streams
On December 2, 2008, the Bush Administration in its last days approved a Department of Interior rule which will allow coal companies to shear off the tops of mountains and dump the debris into surrounding valleys and streams. This change would primarily affect coalfields in Appalachia. Current regulations establish a minimum 100 ft. buffer between dumped material and streams. By changing the environmental effect on streams from “adversely impact” to “significantly degrade,” the new rule would allow variances that would reduce or eliminate the buffer. Stephen Johnson (items 23, 321, 348) the current head of the EPA and one of the Adminstration’s most active anti-environmentalists, stated that fish, streams, and wildlife would be protected. What Johnson did not say was that this would be done by changing the definition of “protected”. The rule also contains a lot of wiggle room in how runoff and water pollution would be minimized “to the extent possible using the best technology currently available.” For mining interests and this Administration, “the extent possible” can mean “not much” and “the best technology currently available” can mean whatever is handy.
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398. Managing the Obama transition, the NASA example
The secrecy and the lack of accountability which have marked the Bush Administration are producing some comical but telling problems for Obama transition teams. NASA’s dictatorial Adminstrator Michael Griffin said that Lori Garver, a former NASA associate administrator, was unqualified to judge his pet project the Constellation program to return astronauts to the moon by 2020. He directed NASA employees to stay on message with the transition team. Interviews were monitored by NASA officials, and employees were told to report conversations back to their managers. Griffin also directly contacted contractors and told them to sell the program and not discuss any alternatives to it. He demanded that they pre-clear their presentations with him. Some contractors were also supplied with talkingpoints saying that if Constellation were cancelled it would make NASA look bad and damage public confidence in it. As a result, some contractors declined to participate in interviews fearing retribution from Griffin.
Griffin’s actions culminated in the following overheard exchange with Garver:
“Mike, I don’t understand what the problem is. We are just trying to look under the hood,” Garver said.
“If you are looking under the hood, then you are calling me a liar,” Griffin replied. “Because it means you don’t trust what I say is under the hood.”
It would be hard to find a more eloquent expression of the Bush mindset of “Trust me and don’t believe your lying eyes” or a better example of the view that facts are not to be addressed but managed.
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
399. The cockamamie FBI investigation of the Madrid train bombings and Brandon Mayfield
On March 11, 2004, a series of bombings took place in Madrid which killed 191 people and injured 2,000. A fingerprint lifted from a bag of detonator caps was erroneously identified by the FBI as belonging to Brandon Mayfield, a 37 year old lawyer in Portland, Oregon. Although Mayfield was living more than 5,000 miles away from Madrid and there was no evidence that he had been outside the country, and despite the doubts of Spanish authorities about the fingerprint match, what sealed the deal for the FBI was that Mayfield’s wife was from Egypt and he had converted to Islam and had Moslem clients. As far as they were concerned, he had to be a terrorist. As a result, the FBI began a highly intrusive surveillance of Mayfield including wiretaps and searches of his home and office which culminated in his arrest on May 6, 2004 as a material witness, a detention which lasted two weeks. As Mayfield described his ordeal
The days, weeks and months following my arrest were some of the darkest we have had to endure. I personally was subject to lockdown, strip searches, sleep deprivation, unsanitary living conditions, shackles and chains, threats, physical pain and humiliation.
It is important to realize the intensity of the government’s pressure on Mayfield. They were hanging death penalty offenses over him and generally terrorizing both him and his family. In this, the government’s investigation recalls the heavy-handedness and sloppiness of its anthrax investigations (see item 366).
Nevertheless, a January 6, 2006 report by the Justice Department’s Inspector General Glenn Fine, in a fairly typical whitewash characteristic of IG reports, found that the FBI had not misused any provisions of the Patriot Act although it noted that the government’s sharing of information on Mayfield to other agencies had amplified the effects of its “mistake”.
On November 29, 2006, the government settled with Mayfield for $2 million. It issued him an apology, and allowed his case challenging the Constitutional validity on 4th Amendment grounds of the Patriot Act to go forward.
With great power comes great responsibility. Along with understanding a lot about human nature, the Founders understood this. They knew from their own experience that there were plenty of fools and zealots who would abuse and misuse any power that was given to them. It is why they were so careful to make sure that no power went unchecked. Post-9/11, the Bush Administration went on a bender and with considerable help, or complicit silence, from the Democrats undid many of the simple lessons that the Founders struggled so hard and sacrificed so much to bequeath to us. Bush and the political leadership on both sides of the aisle thought they were considerably smarter than the Founders gave them credit for. What they did not understand was that they were the ones the Founders were warning us about.
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Inspector General, Surveillance, War on Terror
400. An absent President
Of the 2922 days Bush was President he spent all or part of 1,020 on vacation (35% of his time in office). This includes 487 days at Camp David, 490 at his ranch in Crawford, and 43 days at his family’s compound in Kennebunkport. If there is one word which typifies this and Bush, it is AWOL. The man has been AWOL his whole life. You have only to look at his academic career or his lack of it. It nails his experience with Vietnam where he never took a strong position for the war and went, or against it and protested. It was the essence of his time in the National Guard (whether it was technically the case or not). It marked his approach to his business failures. As for the governorship of Texas, it looks good on a résumé and is a useful political springboard but it is a weak position, tailor made for an AWOL man. Unfortunately for us, the Presidency is a real full-time job. In it, Bush stayed true to form. He was not just physically absent from it much of the time. He was intellectually and morally absent from it all the time.
The results we can see all around us. He did not keep us safe from 9/11. He mired the nation in stupid wars he waged stupidly and interminably. He was not there for Katrina. He took a piratical financial industry and negligently set it loose on the economy to wreak havoc in the housing and oil markets and eventually bring the whole system to the point of collapse and the country to the edge of depression.
But the blame does not belong to him. It never does with an AWOL man. No, it belongs with us who, as a nation, for 8 years took a vacation from our ourselves and our responsibilities. We had not just an AWOL President with Bush but an AWOL age. Now Bush is gone, as AWOL as ever, and we are left to deal with his legacies.


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