tshnc01
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« on: March 07, 2011, 02:23:25 PM » |
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Everyone OK with these changes to the constitution? 
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kathyp
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 04:34:45 PM » |
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lord help us  we don't need to build more houses though. there are tons of homes that are to big for the people living in them and many unoccupied homes. we just need to make sure that families get the big places and singles or retired are moved into the small places. then, since those people who are moved out won't need so much money to upkeep their smaller places, we can that the excess and give it to health care and schools. we all know that more money makes for better education, right? and to solve the doctor problem, we can make people go to medical school, and restrict their pay. that way we can have lots of doctors and keep the cost of health care down. wait!!! that's been done!!! how'd that turn out anyway? the sad thing is that he was elected by people who presumable think as he does..... |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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jmblakeney
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 04:58:56 PM » |
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Wow  How are these type of people in Congress. Providing every student an ipod and a laptop. jeez. Why don't we give them the right to a cell phone. Wait. wait. wait. We already do provide them with those. How about the right to a flat screen hanging on the wall. We would hate for someone not to have the latest technology. And, while we're screwing the constitution how about putting in there the right to the new government sponsored Chevy Volt. That way those in the "ghetto", as he says, won't feel left out. Sorry for ranting. These type of things has a tendency to make me want to cloud up and rain all over some of them. |
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"I believe the best social program is a job...." - Ronald Reagan
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BlueBee
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 05:36:20 PM » |
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Why don’t we also give everybody free roads to drive on, a public internet system, free TV, and electric lines to everybody’s home. Oh wait, we already do. It is good economic policy for a government to regulate and provide some goods and services, but I will have to agree with the crowd here; Jackson is talking a welfare economy here. That is not good for productivity. (I wonder how many ipods Jackson could buy with the 10 million severance package the tax payers footed for the ex GM CEO (Rick Wagoner). He could fund a lot of his ideas just from failed CEO paychecks. No changes to the constitution needed) JM, I wouldn’t be surprised if Wagoner didn't also walk away with a free Volt on our dime. I think that is called CEO welfare  |
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hardwood
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 06:04:43 PM » |
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He doesn't want a volt...he'll be trying for a Cadi-malac esa-laid.
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"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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AllenF
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 07:18:24 PM » |
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I would like to see the whole unedited speech to see who he was talking about and what all was said.
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kathyp
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2011, 07:47:49 PM » |
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here is a longer one. i have not watched it yet.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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kathyp
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 08:00:38 PM » |
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ah. the first part of his speech is a reading of FDRs second bill of rights. this way of thinking is a natural progression of large government doing for people. the more that is done, the more people expect it to do. people never question where this stuff comes from or who pays for it. they don't care as long as the stuff keeps coming.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 08:52:15 PM » |
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The Supreme Court ruled that Amish are allowed to have their own school system that only goes to the 8th grade. What are Amish kids going to do with an ipod and a laptop?
Interestingly enough, Amish schooled children test better (on average) than their public schooled counterparts in everything except English vocabulary. (Likely because Amish kids learn English as a second language.)
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2011, 05:35:55 PM » |
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The final conclusion from that speech:
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kathyp
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2011, 05:46:26 PM » |
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wonder if anyone has thought to look for that lady and re-interview her?
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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buzzbee
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2011, 06:20:46 PM » |
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wonder if anyone has thought to look for that lady and re-interview her?
Disenfranchised I'm sure!!!  |
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