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Author Topic: Complicated Removal Between Floor Joists-March 1st & 2nd 2011  (Read 2061 times)
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« on: March 04, 2011, 12:16:38 AM »

First floor joist was pretty close to the interior wall which gave me little room to remove the comb sections. Had my contractor friend come by to discuss what we could do and he suggested removing a portion of the joist to enable me to pull the comb sections.

Glad its over and done with.

Real nice queen BTW.


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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 12:34:22 AM »

What am I doing up watching JP Bee TV
Don't care
I like it  grin

Thanks for another Lesson

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 01:25:36 AM »

That was a great job you did in a difficult space. Nice video on Youtube.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 01:29:35 AM »

That was a major operation JP. I bet you were glad to slap that plywood back down and take your bees home!
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 06:38:50 AM »

Very nice job JP.  That looked difficult because of the location. I would have been very nervous cutting into a floor joist, it was a good idea to consult your friend.

Thanks for sharing this video with us!

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 07:12:43 AM »

Nice job, as usual.  That could have easily turned into a real nightmare job.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 09:13:05 AM »

Nice job JP. Thanks for all the videos.

Question: Is your blue tooth ear piece acting as your camera microphone?

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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 09:31:43 AM »

Quick question for you JP, at the end you did a shot with the camera down below the floor joists. There appeared to be a good amount of comb down there. Did you just leave that comb there?
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 10:14:46 AM »

Anything that is questionable, construction wise, I always consult with a contractor.

The ear piece was not serving as a mic.

I was able to remove most of the comb between the top plate and the brick but not all of it. To remove more of it would have involved opening the sheetrock wall on the first floor which the customer decided was not an option.

I put the floor back down, didn't video that, would y'all have liked to have seen footage of that?

This is what I did: packed insulation down between top plate and brick and between sheet rock ceiling and plywood. The idea is to leave no space between the sheet rock and the plywood.

The chunk that I removed from the top of the joist was put back and nailed in place and I sistered a 2 x 4 against that same joist for more support.

This was done per my contractor friend's instructions.

Was very happy to be done with this one and yes, it could have been a lot worse!


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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 10:30:56 AM »

Another job well done.  Its gotta be nice to do this kinda stuff for a living. Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 07:12:16 PM »

JP seriously entertaining and educational stuff...... I will definately take  my camera on my next cut out!  (I have only done one)  but would love another (speaking to Bee fate)  thanks again JP
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 07:39:23 PM »

Nice job JP.  That was an interesting removal.

 I have a couple questions if you don't mind.  

Will the bees attatch the cut out comb and expand it to fill the frame??  If not do you take those frames out after a while so that they can draw out full frames.  If they do would you be willing to post pics or videos of the drawn out frames?

You have mentioned that the bees are kicking out the rubber bands.  Do they take them off themselves? or do you open the hive and take the rubber bands off?  Would you be willing to post pics or video of this also?  


Thanks alot I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your cut-outs, entertaining and educational  a perfect combination.  Look foreward to your next removal.  

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 08:01:15 PM »

Nice job JP.  That was an interesting removal.

 I have a couple questions if you don't mind.  

Will the bees attatch the cut out comb and expand it to fill the frame??  If not do you take those frames out after a while so that they can draw out full frames.  If they do would you be willing to post pics or videos of the drawn out frames?

You have mentioned that the bees are kicking out the rubber bands.  Do they take them off themselves? or do you open the hive and take the rubber bands off?  Would you be willing to post pics or video of this also?  


Thanks alot I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your cut-outs, entertaining and educational  a perfect combination.  Look foreward to your next removal.  

Lee

If they're pretty good bees, they do as they are told!  grin

With proper resources they will expand/build new comb and attach to frames. I have pulled frames from cut out colonies and was hard pressed to distinguish a difference between one that was foundation-less from a cut out and one having foundation that I introduced.

Not all bees are created equal so there will be variances on what they've done with what you've given them to work with.

Some bees kick all the rubber bands out, some chew through them and build comb over/around them. When I go in I pull out any rubber bands that have served their purpose.

I will be going to one of my main bee yards soon and will have my camera with me to get footage of some of what you are asking.

If the weather is agreeable tomorrow, I can also film some of what my "Thanksgiving bees" have done. I was in them today and transferred them from a medium nuc to a full size medium. A lot of what you are asking can be seen in this hive.


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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 08:40:00 PM »

Good Job JP!  I had a cut out like that last year where going through the dry wall wasnt a option for the homeowner and I had to go through the floor.... ran into that same oddly placed floor joyce...fortunately I have skinny hands and was able to remove the colony but it sure was tight!  Nce video of yours!
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 08:56:44 PM »

Thanks WB!


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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 10:05:37 PM »

Thanks for another great video.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2011, 11:11:41 PM »

This was a very satisfying video for me to watch. I guess because I always enjoy them when the bees are so peaceful. (OH yeah, and you were very peaceful also)

I learn so much watching these videos. Can't watch enough of them to learn, learn, learn.

Was there any honey in this hive??

What will keep other bees from swarming into this same spot?? I know you usually use that mesh to stuff into the space. Did you use it this time??

Thanks JP for sharing

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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 07:50:49 AM »

Annette, I played my part in this one. The rest is up to the building owner as to how far they are willing to bee proof this building. Honestly, there is a good possibility of bees getting back into this building, almost impossible to bee proof, lots of cables and electrical conduit right where the brick and vinyl siding meet.

I am feeding this hive sugar water. They did have some honey but it had an odd taste to it and was 86'd.


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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 11:52:24 PM »

another great video
still amazed you do so much with out even a veil

who's multi tool do you use

 Thanks Again

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2011, 12:28:58 AM »

Dave, I use my own multi-tool!  grin

Hee hee, from Harbor freight, purchased for $39.00, they went on sale last year for $29.00 and I bought two more. Still have not had to even think about opening another box, original one gets it done.

This tool is Amazing!


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