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http://www.foxnewsinsider.com/2011/02/14/san-diego-port-security-says-wmd-found-on-american-soil/?v=5this is the kind of thing that i would usually skim over and take with a grain of salt. this time it caught my attention because this is not the first time i have heard rumor of this.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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Keith13
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 08:41:11 PM » |
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Kathy stop spreading fear Obama is the president dont you remeber how happy the world was when we elected him they love us now no one would hurt us. he is the savior he will get us through this unpleasant war and rough spot in history. its people like you who hate obama and keep dragging these stupid news stories by fox (i hate America news channel) to the surface. the war on terror is over the terrorist love us now
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 08:42:54 PM » |
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what the heck was i thinking. sorry....  |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 08:44:29 PM » |
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Whoa, Keith, my boots are only soooo high.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 09:02:05 PM » |
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My guess is that since that they can be ran through our ports,it's possible they could buried in the giant sand box of Iraq. Just because they weren't found doesn't mean they don't exist.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2011, 11:32:00 PM » |
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what is "mass effect"? seems to me a rather small quantity of LSD, or even a shipment of defective car tires (that could cause hundreds of motorists to have blowouts) could qualify for such a designation.
this is not to say (or imply) that i don't think all kinds of things get through ports, buried in the iraqi desert, or shipped to syria....but this particular statement could refer to anything.
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kathyp
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 12:06:37 AM » |
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it could. if you watched the video, the statement put out be homeland security only said no nuclear weapons had been found. it said nothing about other WMD...and there are so many possibilities.
we game this from time to time. used to do it in the military all the time also. a WMD might just as likely be a weapon of mass disruption. you don't have to kill a lot of people to bring the system down.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 08:20:12 AM » |
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Kathy I agree A WMD could be anything we are programmed to believe a nuke or chemical attack is what a WMD is. But, an EMP could very well be considered a WMD as well
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 09:44:09 AM » |
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They were interviewing one of the dim bulbs in the box. And possibly not use to being on camera and nervous. They probably have found weapons. Perhaps a few automatic weapons.
But aren't those people there to find the WMD? Isn't that their job? And how naive would it be to think no one has ever tried to get one through?
I believe the proper response to the question, "Have you ever found WMD?" would be, "Yes we have. That is what we are suppose to do. Now sleep better at night knowing we are doing our job."
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 09:55:42 AM » |
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this is the kind of thing that i would usually skim over and take with a grain of salt. this time it caught my attention because this is not the first time i have heard rumor of this.
Oh, so the truth of a rumor is related to how often it is repeated?? |
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 11:17:32 AM » |
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Oh, so the truth of a rumor is related to how often it is repeated?? that's a odd interpretation of my post. i found it interesting that this was said. what i had heard came to me through the grapevine. this is different. jerrymac, i thought it looked like he knew he's stepped in it even as he tried to answer the questions. the PA officers reaction was even better. |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 11:23:13 AM » |
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But aren't those people there to find the WMD? Isn't that their job? And how naive would it be to think no one has ever tried to get one through?
If we can't keep a half determined Mexican from crossing the fence to look for work or to mule up a bale of weed, then there is absolutely no way that they could keep any hadji out looking to serve the Jihad. |
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