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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2011, 07:20:48 AM »
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3 workers at 80 to 100 an hour -which is the commercial rate for most things-and Imo sure the production company required these things


Yeah, how about that.

Okay you guys that align yourself with the hobbyist, how much would you quote the job (before you did it)?  Remember you got a mountain of paperwork to take on employees plus unemployment and federal taxes, social security and what not.  Never mind nailing up the board, I wouldn't trust you to do that right anyways.  What is your schedule of fairs?

 :-DGuess I'm a hobbiest so I must align or relate to them, but as for the rest????  I don't charge people for FREE BEES.  I do charge to make repairs or alterations to someones property that been damaged in the process of collecting FREE BEES, but that's me.  oh, and I don't do paperwork anymore, it just leaves a trail....... :)

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2011, 09:29:23 AM »
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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2011, 09:33:03 AM »
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I do charge to make repairs or alterations to someones property that been damaged in the process of collecting FREE BEES, but that's me.


OK what is your rate?  People want a fixed price quoted prior to starting work.

In NYS there is a law on the books now that if you remove a wall or upset the structure in any way that could chip paint on a home built prior to 1970 (I think) you have to be certified.  Certification requires taking classes to learn the hasmat procedures for $$$ and then pass a test.  I think the certificate is another 2 grand per year.  And then you got to follow the hasmat procedures when performing the job.

Fine for not complying or not being certified is around 20 grand.

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/pit-bulls-parolees-behind-scenes/

I only saw the clip on this link which was on the outside of the house.  To me it looks like a swarm not a hive.  What was the outcome?
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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2011, 10:28:13 AM »
In NYS there is a law on the books now that if you remove a wall or upset the structure in any way that could chip paint on a home built prior to 1970 (I think) you have to be certified. 
what law is this, can you cite it?
do cable tv installers need to be certified?

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2011, 11:50:43 AM »
I think he is talking about removal of lead based paint on a structure, and then you can find the occasional asbestos siding  :shock:

the classes are hazmat which stands for hazardous materials, they teach you how to handle, remove and dispose of various things that pose a potential health and/or safety hazard to you or the environment.
those hot bees will have you steppin and a fetchin like your heads on fire and your @ss is a catchin!!!

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2011, 12:38:14 PM »
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I do charge to make repairs or alterations to someones property that been damaged in the process of collecting FREE BEES, but that's me.


OK what is your rate?  People want a fixed price quoted prior to starting work.

In NYS there is a law on the books now that if you remove a wall or upset the structure in any way that could chip paint on a home built prior to 1970 (I think) you have to be certified.  Certification requires taking classes to learn the hasmat procedures for $$$ and then pass a test.  I think the certificate is another 2 grand per year.  And then you got to follow the hasmat procedures when performing the job.

Fine for not complying or not being certified is around 20 grand.


http://animal.discovery.com/videos/pit-bulls-parolees-behind-scenes/

I only saw the clip on this link which was on the outside of the house.  To me it looks like a swarm not a hive.  What was the outcome?

#1 Answer; I don't give estimates without seeing the work, most people accept that logic.
#2 Answer:  Sure am glad I don't live in NYS (If I do the job right I don't get call-backs, must be doing something right)
#3 Answer: I don't do paper work, It just leaves a paper trail

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2011, 12:45:17 PM »
yes, i know about lead paint removal and the need for certification (been through it, and i know some horror stories of when things were done improperly).

but...i'm curious about a law in new york state that requires certification for any work that might chip the paint of a house built before 1970.  we just had the direct tv yahoos here for a tenant, they are "drill happy", and i can't imagine that these clowns could pass any certification.

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2011, 12:49:42 PM »
Never thought I would do it!

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2011, 12:50:26 PM »
I'm surprised at that deknow, you must be aware of some folks with pieces of paper (certificates) that aren't worth a darn and others with no paper who could teach the teachers, Right?? :-D

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2011, 01:16:59 PM »
http://www.qualifiedremodeler.com/print/Qualified-Remodeler/New-Lead-based-Paint-Certification-/1$1339


looks to be federal law EPA ...

LOOKS to Bee A Bad Link :-D

This bee job is getting deep

Did anyone count the OSHA Reg.s broke :shock:
I was thinking of calling my Local U. #007 :-D

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2011, 01:52:23 PM »
what town was it in and what was the guys name--RDY-B

I'm pretty sure this is it.....

http://www.livingbees.com/

T.V has been down here, can't tell which video(s) it is or are. doesn't appear to match the small clip. which one is it?


http://www.qualifiedremodeler.com/print/Qualified-Remodeler/New-Lead-based-Paint-Certification-/1$1339


looks to be federal law EPA ...


the link works if it's copied and pasted directly into the address bar. Here"s a few other links of reference from that page

http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/leadinfo.htm#remodeling

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-TOX/2008/April/Day-22/t8141.pdf

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2011, 01:57:22 PM »
looks to be federal law EPA ...

how about the actual regulation rather than an article about it?
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-TOX/2008/April/Day-22/t8141.pdf
there are lots of exemptions...including minor repairs that remove less than 20 square feet of outside wall (where any painted surface is not demolished), "emergency situations" and the like.  i don't think this would inhibit much in the way of bee removals.  but, if you want to tell me what is in it, you have to read it first.

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2011, 02:01:30 PM »
Posted by: deknow

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2011, 03:23:38 PM »
In NYS there is a law on the books now that if you remove a wall or upset the structure in any way that could chip paint on a home built prior to 1970 (I think) you have to be certified. 
what law is this, can you cite it?
do cable tav installers need to be certified?
  home repair- :-P dont now about that --but heres a link for bee removal-

http://www.pcoc.org/consumer/ahb/forhire.cfm

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2011, 06:55:34 PM »
  heres some citations with code referance-RDY-B
http://www.pcoc.org/consumer/ahb/whatisahb.cfm

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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2011, 09:10:18 PM »
They really did not show very much of it. Fella came out looked aruond and told them a couple hundred to remove the bees, a couple hundred to remove the comb and a couple hundred to nail a board back on. If he was there three hours it was because he was chatting it up. The dog rescue people got ripped off in my opinion.

Sounds like it was way over priced, at least it would be in my area, albeit not unheard of, but if they were given the job, whose fault was it, if it was indeed high compared to others who would have done it cheaper?


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Re: Tonights bee show
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2011, 10:26:43 PM »
The Union dues and all the certifications really drive up the cost of a simple bee removal (AHB or not).