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« on: January 04, 2011, 02:55:40 PM »

I am about to publish a book about beekeeping and I like to share an unedited version of chapter 4 that may help some of you to keep the V.destructor mite under control. a few beekeepers here use this method and it works very well. It does not need any product but good management and proper (accurate) timing, which is all described.

It also describes the method of using formic acid, but it is not needed if you follow the instruction.  ADMIN EDIT ->  attached PDF below

You will find other information with above search, e.g. how to process wax and build your own foundation.
Please ask me questions.

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 07:07:24 PM »

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and then dropped again, as bees became resistant to them.

I think you meant to say mites became resistant...
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 02:19:43 PM »

hello
 I try to do mite free as much as one can but you need to use some method {using drone comb} powder sugar does some good. I would never use formic acid in a hive.simple thing as changing out old comb will work wonders.

P.S. I wish some one would write a book on the simple things { low or no cost ways}
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 02:02:48 AM »

hello
 I try to do mite free as much as one can but you need to use some method {using drone comb} powder sugar does some good. I would never use formic acid in a hive.simple thing as changing out old comb will work wonders.

P.S. I wish some one would write a book on the simple things { low or no cost ways}
 Don
  HI Don still doing walnut smoke for varoa (prety sure you where the one doing that)
 and hows it going- cool RDY-B
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 10:15:23 AM »

 
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What is the theory behind this?
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 02:52:18 PM »

Walnut smoke is down about 19:09   http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,13005.0.html


Another tread on walnut smoke   http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,18401.0.html  and
 http://www.beesource.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-200515.html


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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 04:40:28 PM »

  i never followed this through-but have learned that there is a big difference between black walnut and english wall nut -seams the black walnut is the one with the natural toxin in it--thats why you cant plant any thing under black walnut tree-it just wont grow good-Is this still being practiced anybody???-or did it pass by the way side with FGMO--RDY-B
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 04:50:57 PM »

I read a study a year or so ago (might even be posted here somewhere) by the University of Fl about different smokes for varroa control. Mesquite, black walnut and grapefruit leaves were all said to have some positive effect.

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 05:11:57 PM »

hello
I been using smoke as a form of mite control for lot of yrs now.walnut is one.I see lot of people dug up old work of mine in late 90's my research.
 what the hell when I was trying to get eople to try it they laughed at me, now takeing second look
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 05:45:37 PM »

I read a study a year or so ago (might even be posted here somewhere) by the University of Fl about different smokes for varroa control. Mesquite, black walnut and grapefruit leaves were all said to have some positive effect.

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  seams to me that there is a variety of SUMAC that has properties as-well
i remember the grapefruit  Smiley--RDY-B
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2011, 06:45:32 PM »

yes there is others stag horn sumac is great to smoke wild mean bees calms right down. don't use lot and not real often.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 01:28:19 AM »

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I think you meant to say mites became resistant...
Very good point, sorry for the typo!!
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 01:33:53 AM »

hello
 I try to do mite free as much as one can but you need to use some method {using drone comb} powder sugar does some good. I would never use formic acid in a hive.simple thing as changing out old comb will work wonders.

P.S. I wish some one would write a book on the simple things { low or no cost ways}
 Don
Hi Don
You need to read the whole chapter 4 for of Harmonic Farming: Bees. It explains two methods, one to manage the worker bee brood and drone brood. This method does not cost you a cent and you can do it yourself if you know how to keep bees.
The second method is for those that can not observe the bees every day or are unable to reach them at a specific time. They can use formic acid.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 09:01:05 AM »

hello
 I try to do mite free as much as one can but you need to use some method {using drone comb} powder sugar does some good. I would never use formic acid in a hive.simple thing as changing out old comb will work wonders.

P.S. I wish some one would write a book on the simple things { low or no cost ways}
 Don
Some of us wish "you" were the one writing such a book Don.  How bout it? You got the time  Smiley  Always good to see/hear you're voice around these parts. 

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 10:11:14 AM »

thanks for the boost of pride. as for a book anyone up to writing one for me>Huh? I'll split the profits as for me too busy just trying to keep bees I still got lot to learn. if interested contact me and write on.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 10:30:22 AM »

Don, did you ever get a partner to work with last year?
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 11:35:10 AM »

not yet. you applying would consider a partner if there buying into it.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2011, 05:35:57 AM »

I am about to publish a book about beekeeping and I like to share an unedited version of chapter 4 that may help some of you to keep the V.destructor mite under control. a few beekeepers here use this method and it works very well. It does not need any product but good management and proper (accurate) timing, which is all described.

It also describes the method of using formic acid, but it is not needed if you follow the instruction.  ADMIN EDIT ->  attached PDF below

You will find other information with above search, e.g. how to process wax and build your own foundation.
Please ask me questions.


Chapter 4 of Harmonic Farming: Bees is now edited, google it. Sustainable Mite Control (SMC) is a method to manage the bees not treat them or medicate.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 11:27:36 PM »

I am about to publish a book about beekeeping and I like to share an unedited version of chapter 4 that

Dear Administrator, I try to find how to send you an email but am not able to find out how so I use this post. You changed my origingal message from a link to Harmonic Farming: Bees to a pdf file. May I kindly ask to give credit to the author Werner Gysi and his description to Sustainable Mite Control (SMC) somewhere? Else please remove the link as it does not include reference to the author. I have in the meantime uploaded an edited chapter 4 which does now include the credit. As the information I share is quite valuable you would do the forum a great service to let them decide to read more about me rather then censor it.
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