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« on: December 30, 2010, 12:55:46 PM »

We've created a prototype of a fancy garden hive.  This is the front of an 8 frame medium.  I figured we'd start with that before we went on to deeps as it takes less time to carve, plus I get to use the prototypes Wink.  For the deeps, there would be a banner that can have a name or farm name in it.

We figured it would be stained/coated or dipped heavily.  This is made from white pine. We were also thinking of making it from sassafras instead of pine for more durability, plus we can get the sassafras locally.  I think red cedar would also be very pretty.  We can drive a bit and get cypress. 

What do you think of the design? I'd love to have feedback on it.  Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 04:24:44 PM »

Very Nice!  Wink

I can't believe that you even went as far as too have a mite on one of the bees. What realism in your work!   grin

Let me know how much for one front panel. I'd love to have one to show off. Might be good marketing for you.  grin
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 05:55:52 PM »

Very, very nice. Is it hand carved or are you using some type of CNC machine?
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 06:52:22 PM »

Thanks for the comments so far.  We have not decided on pricing yet as we are still building the models and trying out the machine.  We are using a  CNC machine, but we are hand building the models for it so it is a slow process right now between hardware, software and woodware Wink.  I think we will end up with three or four main designs.  Once we know the pricing levels  we will post, we definitely want good referrals as this is a startup operation. 

We will also do signage and thinking about honey displays/shelves for farmer markets and other outlets which folks sell their honey.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2010, 07:17:15 PM »

Very cool.   A lot of great ideas can be cut into boxes now.  I like the signage idea.   How wide of a board can you work with?   And how think is the wood after being carved?   Looks good.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 07:39:10 PM »

Man, these are quite nice!

KB, when you get the chance please update your profile to include your location.

Thanks!


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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 07:52:56 PM »

Right now we can go to 24" X26".  With an equipment upgrade we can go to 24" X56".  After carving the prototype is 3/8" but we think for production it will be 1/2".  We don't see the thickness after carving for this one panel of the box being an issue.  On our next cut we are going to have a 1/2"  frame around the ends where the finger joints are so the carving will be set "into" a panel, which will add more stability. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2010, 08:28:45 PM »

Here is our 2nd prototype with the 1/2" frame on the finger joint sides.  This will strengthen the panel and help with nailing.  We are justing using unassembled hive parts we have on hand for prototypes, so the wood is a little rough....not the way the finished product would look as far as finger joints.  Thanks to all for the comments and compliments so far Wink.

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 07:34:10 PM »

Where did you get the design or did you have to program it yourself?
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 06:13:45 PM »

We build the model ourself. There isn't alot out there on bees.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 07:10:15 PM »

I still think it is very cool.   I just needed to say it again. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2011, 07:30:13 PM »

Thanks again, here are two more designs we've finished.  We have one more design we need to fix a bit and then I'll post it.  These are deeps.



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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 07:36:04 PM »

Sweet.   I love it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 08:55:04 PM »

Thank you......we should have the final one done before the end of the week.  Then we have to figure out a price for them based on design and carving time to make a profit and yet be at a reasonable price.  I think that will be the hard part.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 12:50:48 PM »

Here is our deep comb design and our comb&flower design.  We have a bee medallion design yet to cut and that will finish our inital designs.  Please note that we are using bee box parts on hand.  The production will be with select lumber.



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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 01:50:07 PM »

Very nice work!
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2011, 03:02:56 PM »

Wow! These are awesome.  What a great idea.  Best of luck with the endeavor.  I have a feeling you will make a pretty penny from the hobbyists!! I might even have to save my pennies for one! 

Looking forward to hearing your pricing structure and web address.

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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2011, 03:13:27 PM »

I have a feeling that they want dollars, not pennies.  
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2011, 03:24:27 PM »

Yep, we'll definately need dollars  grin

The most expensive one will be the honeycomb one.  It takes 12 HOURS!!!! to cut one of those, but man I really love that design. We are still trying to figure a way to cut down on the machine time.  We are currently carving with a 1/16" bit, we are going to try a 1/8" bit and see if the quality is still good.  We've also went up a size in the router to see if that will cut down the machine time.
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2011, 03:54:22 PM »

What kind of machine do you have?  I work for a big woodworking machinery tradeshow.  I might could find someone for you to talk to for advice.  Most of the guys are really friendly.  Also, you can often get help from the cnc manufacturer or software maker. 

But you probably already know all that!

And I didn't just say pennies, AllenF, I said PRETTY penny!!  grin

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