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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2010, 02:40:43 PM »

If banana peels have insecticides in/on them, how can all them blank-blank NATS live off of them ??

They sure as blank don't die !

Any body got an answer ?

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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2010, 03:44:15 PM »

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i have lost a hive to it in spite of things like requeening.


So next time you are going to try the banana, requeen or give up cuss you live in Oregon?  Oregon is not the only place in the country that is damp.

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I would take that story with a grain or salt...4 years is a long time to endure that in a hive.


Although the guru was not present at the meeting to confirm the story I can’t for the life of me think of why the guy would lie to me especially when others in the group said “yeah that is what Bill said to do”.

To me it looks like four choices:
Let is self limit
Requeen
Blast it with chemicals
Try the banana
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2010, 04:27:17 PM »

there is damp....and then there is wet.... Wink

i have had chalkbrood a number of times.  only one hive was lost, but it is damaging to the population.  don't know what i'll do next time, but i'll try to remember to let you know.
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2010, 04:32:04 PM »

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i have lost a hive to it in spite of things like requeening.


So next time you are going to try the banana, requeen or give up cuss you live in Oregon?  Oregon is not the only place in the country that is damp.

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I would take that story with a grain or salt...4 years is a long time to endure that in a hive.


Although the guru was not present at the meeting to confirm the story I can’t for the life of me think of why the guy would lie to me especially when others in the group said “yeah that is what Bill said to do”.

To me it looks like four choices:
Let is self limit
Requeen
Blast it with chemicals
Try the banana

  theres a fith choices-- cheesy find a new club-anyway Banana pell is key ingredient in wax moth trap-wont help chalk-tell them that you gave your bees Bleach in the sryup and it cleared it up -that will not hurt threre bees but it will turn them BLUE- cool RDY-B
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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2010, 05:06:45 PM »

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theres a fith choices--  find a new club-anyway Banana pell is key ingredient in wax moth trap-wont help chalk-tell them that you gave your bees Bleach in the sryup and it cleared it up -that will not hurt threre bees but it will turn them BLUE-  RDY-B

Sorry I can't make any sense of your post.  The little faces look good though.
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2010, 05:13:33 PM »

what part dont you understand your fith choice or the blue bees
glad you like the characterization-RDY-B
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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2010, 06:35:42 PM »

 I have seen bananas used in the hive first hand.  as a matter of fact,  I helped the guy who swore by it, put them in his hives.

I helped him do it once a year for 3 years and none of those times did the bees get any more aggressive than they normally might, which is to say, as long as we were nice, they were.

he always put the squishy going soft bananas cut into pieces either directly on the frames or on top of inner cover.

I have never put them inside my own hives, but  I have put bananas out in a location that were in same condition (well over 100 yards from bee yard) and as they get soft and decay, the sugars and moisture are visible and attract all kinds of insects.  If and when the bees find them, they take over and cloud the whole area sucking up the sweet liquid.

He claimed putting the bananas was for a feed source but also generally claimed it kept them bees healthy.  Mind you, this was an 70 some year old farm boy who had been doing this most of his life.  I couldn't tell you if there is any science about it, but as he told me, "science can only tell you what it is, not why."

anyway, that's about all  I can say on the topic.

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2010, 06:50:47 PM »

maybe its the same guy  cool  heres the direction for the wax moth trap
 banana pell is key ingredient  Wink RDY-B


Take a 2 litre plastic pop bottle and drill a 1 inch hole just below the slope on the neck, then add 1 cup water, 1 cup sugar, 1 half cup vinegar and finally 1 banana peel. Wait a few days till it starts to ferment, then tie it into a tree close to the hives. This trap will draw the wax moth, they enter the hole can't get out and drown in the liquid, this will even draw in and kill the bald faced hornet.
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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2010, 06:53:28 PM »

not likely.  the old boy  I helped is now retired and lives in Arizona where his wife has forbid him any more bees.   it's killing him slowly I think.  Poor fella.

it's a notion still kept around by old timer s like him though.  I would expect the rural beeks with a number of years into it would likely know more about it.
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2010, 07:14:51 PM »

  probably just as good for him -Arizona has pockets of AHB-anyway i suppose back in the day the best jokes where
the simple and most obvious-and i suppose even back then some didn't get the joke and took it all the way to there carers end-no harm in that-most of these are a right of pasage from clever keepers-im sure you have a few tricks up your sleve aswell for the new breed-RDY-B
 
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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2010, 07:35:17 PM »

ya just never know.   Wink
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2010, 07:38:47 PM »

I always break in a new carpenters helper by sending him to the rental place to "fetch me a board stretcher".

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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2010, 08:58:08 PM »

I need one of those board stretchers.   I cut a board this week 3 times and it was still to short.   Maybe I can fond one on Ebay.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2010, 11:15:24 AM »

I started working with my father when I was 6 years old.  The first year was just learning what the tools names were and what they were used for.  Once I master that, my job was to hand him the right tool for the job as he needed it like a nurse would do for a surgeon.  Once that was mastered I was then allowed to use the tools (dull ones first) under his careful eye.  However many times he would let me make a mistake even though he knew what I was doing was wrong.  He told me the mark of a good carpenter was how well you could cover your mistakes.

New construction was a cake walk.  "Working on old building especially after someone had already botched it up separates the men from the boys," he said.

He always had a sense of humor.  If you cut a board too short he would say. ”That is better than cutting it too long because you would have to cut it again.  This way here you just scab a piece on.”  If you did it a second time it was not so humorous.
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2010, 02:47:49 PM »

thank you for the insight- tumbleweed-RDY-B
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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2010, 10:50:04 PM »

I started working with my father when I was 6 years old.  The first year was just learning what the tools names were and what they were used for.  Once I master that, my job was to hand him the right tool for the job as he needed it like a nurse would do for a surgeon.  Once that was mastered I was then allowed to use the tools (dull ones first) under his careful eye.  However many times he would let me make a mistake even though he knew what I was doing was wrong.  He told me the mark of a good carpenter was how well you could cover your mistakes.

New construction was a cake walk.  "Working on old building especially after someone had already botched it up separates the men from the boys," he said.

He always had a sense of humor.  If you cut a board too short he would say. ”That is better than cutting it too long because you would have to cut it again.  This way here you just scab a piece on.”  If you did it a second time it was not so humorous.

That's a nice story Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2011, 12:04:06 AM »

Southern fools!  If you want to catch a snipe you have to have a hammer and a can of peas.   But you can make a tasty bread with the banana to eat with your snipe.
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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2011, 12:52:42 AM »

 piano   grin -RDY-B
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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2011, 12:19:45 AM »

I can take you on a snipe hunt, but first you have to get me a left-handed smoke shifter.

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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2011, 11:48:58 AM »

I remember snipe hunting in the boy scouts. soooo

When and if you're snipe hunting, they look like this, your state may even have a season for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe


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