Need Bees Removed?
International
Beekeeping Forums
April 19, 2014, 05:44:15 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: ATTENTION ALL NEW MEMBERS
PLEASE READ THIS OR YOUR ACCOUNT MAY BE DELETED - CLICK HERE
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar bee removal Login Register Chat  

Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Oxalic Vapor disaster  (Read 6638 times)
ItalianBeekeeper
New Bee
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 5

Location: Italy


« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2013, 01:44:41 PM »

10 minutes of fumigation is too much, it will take less than one minute. it should be the alternative to drop oxalic acid solution between the frame-spaces and it will take 3 minutes in that way  tongue
Logged
tecumseh
House Bee
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 391

Location: College Station, Tx


« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2013, 07:04:45 AM »

first a snip...
Oxalic Acid-- Hardware store wood bleach brand.

tecumseh...
I have not use oxalic vapor in a several years but when I did I obtained 99.6% pure oxalic on the net at a very low price.  although folks did suggest the wood bleach route to me when I was considering the oxalic vapor method I am a bit to weary of what else might be in there for myself to use such a product in my hive.  I think too much of my own family (who do eat my honey) and my 'girls' to take those kinds of risk.

If my recall is correct the two grams of oxalic would totally vaporize using an engine block heater in just about two minutes... should be much faster if you were using a pipe and plumber's torch.

I never saw anything in my experience in using vaporized oxalic that even approaches you description.
Logged

I am 'the panther that passes in the night'... tecumseh.
derekm
House Bee
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 497

Location: glow in the dark Hampshire UK


« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2013, 06:23:40 AM »

Oxalic acid sublimes from a round 101C however around 157C it decomposes into CARBON MONOXIDE CO2 and H20

using a propane torch is not temperature controlled and so rapid heating of the tube could have converted a signinficant proportion to CARBON MONOXIDE.
Logged

If they increased energy bill for your home by a factor of 4.5 would you consider that cruel? If so why are you doing that to your bees?
primeonly27
New Bee
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 7

Location: California


WWW
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2013, 10:02:41 PM »

Was their any lead solder on the pipe? 
Logged
HWDylan
New Bee
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3

Location: Hopelessly Lost


« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2014, 12:24:55 PM »

Oxalic acid sublimes from a round 101C however around 157C it decomposes into CARBON MONOXIDE CO2 and H20

using a propane torch is not temperature controlled and so rapid heating of the tube could have converted a signinficant proportion to CARBON MONOXIDE.


I am with derekm on this. Using an uncontrolled method of heating is asking for trouble in my opinion.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Beemaster's Beekeeping Ring
Previous | Home | Join | Random | Next
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines | Sitemap Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.754 seconds with 21 queries.

Google visited last this page April 15, 2014, 04:02:24 AM