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Author Topic: Tubed bottom boards? can you tell me about them ?  (Read 1724 times)
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« on: December 04, 2010, 01:05:55 PM »

 I read this on another page and much more than what I copied below  huh
Does anyone here use them?
Anyone Make them?
What are the Pro's /Con's
Do you have a Picture of yours?

I have access to a good amount of Bamboo
I wonder if I could make these using split Bamboo

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Tubed bottom boards are similar in principle to the slatted rack. The tubes line up with the frames and everything that falls slides into the gap between the tubes and frames. Aimed primarily at Varroa mites dropping to their starvation, it is challenging and expensive to make. If it could be mass produced it would replace the screened bottom board. The gap between the tubes is large enough for debris and mites to fall through and bees do not
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 02:33:49 PM »

Why would this replace a SBB?  Don't both perform the same? Undecided  SBB are cheap and/or easy to build.  Frankly I'd like to know if Tubed Bottom boards are just another new piece of equipment sold to Beeks that will end up gathering dust in the garage.  More info please.

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 07:02:52 PM »

Sounds like a thicker and heavier and costlier version of a SBB.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 06:55:05 AM »


Tubed bottom boards are similar in principle to the slatted rack. The tubes line up with the frames and everything that falls slides into the gap between the tubes and frames. Aimed primarily at Varroa mites dropping to their starvation, it is challenging and expensive to make. If it could be mass produced it would replace the screened bottom board. The gap between the tubes is large enough for debris and mites to fall through and bees do not



  What will Tubed  boards   replace

  Slatted Racks?
  Bottom Board ?
  Screen Bottom Board ?

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 08:45:58 AM »

Brian DBray makes slatted racks with wooden dowels  instead of wooden slats.They work well for him. He details the method on the forum somewhere.
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,13505.msg95965.html#msg95965
This is some of it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 12:07:52 PM »

The poster is not talking about slatted racks !

The tubing bottom boards, were discussed on one of these boards sometime back, a year or two ago.

Someone had bought one and said the tubing was way too flimsy, the bees did get thru, it was really a ripoff.

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 02:08:33 PM »

I found it. at the Post that got me asking here rolleyes


Here is a Link to the makers of it ??
http://www.apiculture.com/happykeeper/index_us.htm

Let me Know what you think?

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2010, 02:17:30 PM »

I think if you look at Brians description,he has built basically whats pictured. He put hardware cloth on the bottom and eliminated the bottom board.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2010, 02:37:31 PM »

I think if you look at Brians description,he has built basically whats pictured. He put hardware cloth on the bottom and eliminated the bottom board.

Yep seems like the same thing
I may try one in PVC

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2010, 05:27:45 PM »

Very interesting and well thought out site.  the pollen trap was intriging.  I'm stillnot convinced it will replace SBB though.
Thanks for the post TommyT
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2010, 09:29:32 AM »

What about polypropylene rod instead of tubing? It shouldn't have the flex of tubing eliminating the middle strut. Of course this is not considering costs though just wondering if the rod/tubing has benefits over screen. Solid rod would add thermal mass to the bottom board and would reduce airflow with a smaller total area open. Would it satisfy those who want a solid bottom board for wintering.
At first blush I do not see why it would not prove satifactory for varroa drop but I wonder if it might be of use for SHB giving the little bastards a place to run to when chased. Put an oil pan below and viola!
I did some figuring and a 1" rod spaced eleven rods to the bottom would work for narrow frame (1 1/4") spacing leaving a .20" gap and 1 1/4" rod would be similar for the standard ten frame box.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 04:26:15 AM »

1/8th inch hardware screen much easier and cheaper to make.  Why would you want to waste your time making one of these.  It seems like going from a lang to a hollow log hive.

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 07:29:40 AM »

While I think beekeepers tinkering around have come up with some really neat stuff over the years, I also think some beekeepers have too much time on their hands. Some just want to create something different, slap their name on it, patent it, and smack themselves on the back.

Most new stuff is what I would call a "fad" items, and quickly pass into history. Until some beekeeper years from now runs across an article or a mention of this or that, and the whole process starts over.

While I have bought about everything under the sun when it comes to beekeeping so I could experience the product first hand, I decided to pass on this.  Wink

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