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Our wonderful criminal justice system
« on: December 03, 2010, 11:28:10 AM »
of which I happen to be employed by, but I'm not blind to it's downfalls.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/2/execution-survivor-stays-on-death-row/

Seems that needles for lethal injections are just plain ole 'owie' painful. Apparently the rape and murder of this guy's 14 year old victim wasn't as bad as the needle pricks. A good ole rope hanging from the rafters should be the backup plan.

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 11:38:45 AM »
seems a .25 bullet would solve the problem

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 11:40:58 AM »
Yup, or maybe by firing squad of a bunch of pellet rifles. I doubt his victim's death was quick and painless.

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 11:52:01 AM »
Yup, or maybe by firing squad of a bunch of pellet rifles. I doubt his victim's death was quick and painless.

Dang thats evil :evil:

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 12:09:56 PM »
im willing to bet that he drank nothing for a couple if days to dehidrate himself before the big day.

Utah had it right, give them a choice hanging or fireing squad.

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 03:59:56 PM »
For me, I'm not worried about quick, painless, how stressful the method is etc...

the death penalty is not about revenge.  it's a legal consequence.

The state should find the most cost, resource and time efficient method and go with it.

this is why we are supposed to be a nation of laws.

consequences for breaking the law are not about appealing to an emotional public.

of course as a public we want the convicted to feel the suffering they inflicted on victims.  because we can feel the pain as mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters and children as the family of the victims do.  We can put ourselves emotionally in their place and feel the anger and the rage and the venom that builds up demanding not just justice, but retribution.

the states are playing too much on the emotional grounds and mental state of the convicted while at the same time trying to make the point that as a nation of laws, there can't be allowed such things as lynching parties and such.

 I think they just need to find a that method I described above, regardless of how painful or stressful it may or may not be.

if it's not about the public and the victims emotional position, then it shouldn't be about the convicted person's emotional position either.

As Larry the Cable guy would say...let's get er done.


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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 05:30:25 PM »
For me, I'm not worried about quick, painless, how stressful the method is etc...

the death penalty is not about revenge.  it's a legal consequence.

The state should find the most cost, resource and time efficient method and go with it.

this is why we are supposed to be a nation of laws.

consequences for breaking the law are not about appealing to an emotional public.

of course as a public we want the convicted to feel the suffering they inflicted on victims.  because we can feel the pain as mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters and children as the family of the victims do.  We can put ourselves emotionally in their place and feel the anger and the rage and the venom that builds up demanding not just justice, but retribution.

the states are playing too much on the emotional grounds and mental state of the convicted while at the same time trying to make the point that as a nation of laws, there can't be allowed such things as lynching parties and such.

 I think they just need to find a that method I described above, regardless of how painful or stressful it may or may not be.

if it's not about the public and the victims emotional position, then it shouldn't be about the convicted person's emotional position either.

As Larry the Cable guy would say...let's get er done.



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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 06:13:59 PM »
I like the way they do it in China (or so I've heard), firing squad then charge the criminal's family for the bullets.

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 08:20:28 PM »
Couldn't they just call in ole doc Kevorkian? He was an expert on a "painless" death. And he didn't mind doing it for a small fee.
  I can't help but wonder if the free health care while on death row was any less painful at times.

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 08:32:51 PM »
After raping and killing a 14 y/o girl, then letting him live 24 years before attempting an execution? They should have "injected" a straight razor around the front 50 % of his neck about 2 inches deep. Then they would have found the vein.
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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2010, 09:43:27 PM »
After raping and killing a 14 y/o girl, then letting him live 24 years before attempting an execution? They should have "injected" a straight razor around the front 50 % of his neck about 2 inches deep. Then they would have found the vein.

Yup, all they would have to refer to is Brian D. Brays earlier posting on Preparing the Thanksgiving Turkey.

edit. Took me a minute but I found the video that I watched while I was in the academy.

Father of Kidnapped Son gets Revenge

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2010, 11:14:35 PM »
What a video.   I never heard about that story, or saw that video.   I am surprised that a jury even slapped his hand after that.  Did they have a good enough case to put the guy away before the revenge shooting killed him?


And back to the first guy who does not have good veins, put him to sleep and then cut open his chest and find a blood vessel.  If he is asleep, it caan not be painful.

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Re: Our wonderful criminal justice system
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 03:22:35 AM »
srap some C-4 on him and drop him on el kaida - 2 birds with one stone.
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