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Offline ronwhite3030

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Lets Talk Motors
« on: October 03, 2010, 05:04:41 PM »
What size motors do people use and what have they gotten them off of or purchased them from, to make an extractor variable speed and reversible. and I am not talking about using a drill.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2010, 06:18:51 PM »
Any small variable speed motor should work.   I have seen old ceiling fans used.  (free ones)

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 06:22:10 PM »
And I saw an old treadmill motor used once also.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 06:25:55 PM »
i was wondering if a ceiling fan would work, its reversible and variable speed, could probably hook a light dimmer switch on it to have better control of the speed. I have a 9 frame extractor now that is hand crank and not reversible. I bought it from dadant about 10 years ago. and really remember how much hand cranking sucks. and flipping the frames.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 06:37:27 PM »
When using a ceiling fan, they make a variable speed switch you just wire inline on the plug.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 07:24:56 PM »
yea i saw the inline variable swith just dont know if a ceiling fan motor can support the weight of a 9 frame extractor or if it will burn up the motor. I just found this motor in one of my sheds, I mighnt be able to wire it up and use it.

Manufacturer: General Electric
Model Number:5KH43AB1252X
Horsepower:1/4
PH:1
RPM:1725
Volts:115
*Amps:4.6
**Cycles:60
Temp. Rise:40*C
Time Rating:Cont.
Code:M
SF:1.35
GEJ:435 WJ-D

can you make a motor revers and i mighnt be able to make this one variable speed.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 07:47:48 PM »
Ceiling fans are reversible.  They have a reversible switch on them.   When you tear out the motor, keep the switch inline with the wiring.   

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 09:04:40 PM »
well allen my father just called and a buddy of his has a 1/2hp motor with reverse and variable speed he is going to give me, It's nice when things work out with ease.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 09:21:15 PM »
The price sounds nice to me.

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 09:27:13 PM »
I thought so  too and i'd be big enough if i wanted to eventually get a larger extractor

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 07:07:56 PM »
Well OK then! But, next time you need one, Grainger Supply carries about every electric motor ever made I believe.  :-D

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 07:35:48 PM »
I use a treadmill motor (or at least I will when I get the extractor ready for it). They're powerful, infinitely variable, and free for the taking. How many 1-2 year old treadmills do you see sitting out for the trash?

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 08:28:06 PM »
I don't think I ever saw one in the trash up here.   :-D

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 08:33:05 PM »
I bet I see them 3-4 times a week. More than that around 3 months after Christmas. I guess all the old retirees that come down here first decide to get into better beach body condition and, after trying a treadmill for a short while, decide they were happier when they were fat and lazy. :)

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2010, 11:07:30 PM »
motors that can be wired to rotate in ethier direction can be wired to a DRUM SWITCH
you will have stop the motor before you change direction-RDY-B
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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2010, 01:59:46 AM »
I think reversible is unnecessary, but variable speed is important so you can start slow while the combs are heavy with honey but crank it up when they are almost dry so you can get the last of it out quickly.
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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2010, 08:58:59 AM »
I think??? my very dated abc-xyz will agree with mr bush's suggestion that reversing is unnecessary and speed control is essential.  don't treadmill motor have some kind of speed control?
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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2010, 09:11:34 AM »
I bet I see them 3-4 times a week. More than that around 3 months after Christmas. I guess all the old retirees that come down here first decide to get into better beach body condition and, after trying a treadmill for a short while, decide they were happier when they were fat and lazy. :)

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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2010, 02:26:30 PM »
reverse would be good for tangental-basket type-alow basket to swing freely and basket will flop -changeing direction and -which side of frame is on the outside with rotation direction-years ago they made a 8 frame extractor (buy life time i think ) the thing is the size of  a 60 frame radial-antque these days-anyway this machine had this advantage -also they make this type of machine to extract MANUKA honey which is very low in moisture content and hard to extract--spins one way for short time --then spins another way for short time-baskets flop each time direction changes
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Re: Lets Talk Motors
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2010, 02:51:26 PM »
I bet I see them 3-4 times a week. More than that around 3 months after Christmas. I guess all the old retirees that come down here first decide to get into better beach body condition and, after trying a treadmill for a short while, decide they were happier when they were fat and lazy. :)

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