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How many hive to you need to make a living
« on: December 13, 2011, 07:34:02 PM »
Hi All

I'm in the workup process for commercial production.

And i put the question to you all ...How many hive do you need to make a living?

by living i mean 100+k net pa...

This can be earn t by any stream you like, honey production, pollination, wax production, specialty honey, etc.

what are your thoughts.


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Re: How many hive to you need to make a living
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 08:24:00 PM »
It's going to depend on what you intend to sell.  I have my doubts one can make a living doing nothing but honey (at least here in the US).  But there are bees and queens you can sell as well as honey and pollination.  Here, I think if you raise queens and nucs and some local pollination and some honey, you could make about $30,000 to $40,000 per year US on about 300 hives and 300 nucs (based on Kirk Webster's experience) and only have extra help during the extremely busy times of the years.  I don't know the market down under.
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Re: How many hive to you need to make a living
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 12:26:41 AM »
n=# kg per hive annually  
y=# of hives you own
e=$ annual expenses
v=# value of honey per kg

((n x y)xV)-e=$yourprofit pa (roughly)

I honestly am no maths experts, but that could be right? :)

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Re: How many hive to you need to make a living
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 02:14:42 AM »
wholesalers take a massive clip of your honey profit  :(

even $4.00 per kg for organic certified honey is way too low.

when its retailing for 15-20kg....


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Re: How many hive to you need to make a living
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 06:17:52 PM »
The equation given explains it pretty much as it is. The variables in the expenses area is a doozy at present, price of fuels, replacement costs on machinery, site licenses, your labour, many incidental, weather, bee sites . A few hundred boxes does not give you a significant income at the end of the process. A couple of thousand maens employing help. There is a paucity of profitable beeks due to these factors and others. Run a lean operation and you will covwr costs and have a self paying hobby. Good luck with your venture.