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Public Servants or Gods....
« on: September 28, 2010, 07:54:05 PM »
Never liked the leftist Spector from Pennsylvania. Glad he is now gone. Too bad not much sooner.

So he lived off the people being a "public servant" for the last 44 years or more. Of course that was after he helped some rather GUILTY people flee the country.... :roll:

But now, some nitwits are building a pillar at the alter to cast for eternity the idea that this man was more than a public servant, but some Deity.

A gold watch.... I could see as I think it would be nice gesture as we boot him out the door.

But 10 million dollars for a Specter library? We must all be idiots to allow this stuff to happen.

He was a public servant. He lived off the taxes of others. He was around much longer than any honest man would of sacrificed for the honor to serve. He was a crook!

But now....10 million for a person who was a public servant.

Next, we'll be building shrines for bus drivers, and pooper scooper's and any other public sector worker.

This country is just insane with idiots.
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 08:00:07 PM »
all  I can think of to give him would be a prison term.

Seems fitting to me.

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 08:28:29 PM »
But we have built libraries for a lot of public servants.  :jerry:
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 08:29:41 PM »
Like the crap I hear all the time. "It's not going to cost us anything, we're getting a grant."


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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 09:52:04 PM »
But libraries are going to be out dated soon.   Books are going digital.   You want something, go online.   It would be so easy to put an entire library online.  Just another reach around for the politician to keep his name alive.  Using borrowed money that we will have to pay back with interest for his name.   Name a prison after them.

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 09:42:05 AM »
Bjorn writes:
Never liked the leftist Spector from Pennsylvania.

tecumseh:
and so my case for some folks not being able to distinguish the left from the right is precisely made.

evidently (guessing for certain) name calling (lefty or righty) means the fellow (Spector in this case) didn't agree with Bjorn on each and every point over the entire span of his political career.  since the consuming public (in this case voters) buys into this name calling so eagerly, it does tell ya' quite a bit.  perhaps more than you really wanted to know.   
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 10:38:11 AM »
Ah yes, the stone caster throwing stones at the public.

The public being disgruntled and voicing their views is to be expected and tolerated. Public officials are fair game from both ends of the spectrum.

The person denigrating the very public expressing their views, shall we say...may be a bit self righteous and denigrating in their own way...but just a tad more incorrect, even if the person does not see the difference.

Me calling Spector an idiot is one thing.

You calling me or any "voter" an idiot or assuming the same, for feeling that way, is a whole different thing.

But I would not expect anything different from a academia elitist leftist U.N. loving beekeeper... :roll:
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 10:53:53 AM »
I have long believed we needed a custom (I hate to say "law" as we have too many of those already) that anything built with public funds (libraries, roads, bridges, schools, lakes, etc.) should/could not be named after elected officials.  Certainly not sitting elected officials.  We have public buildings/facilities in Oklahoma named after elected officials who have since gone to jail!!!! 

I don't care how "instrumental" the elected official, be he governor, senator, legislator, county commissioner, etc., was in getting the thing built, the fact is it was still built with public money, not the official's money!  There are plenty of hardworking, honest citizens that deserve things named after them.  The elected officials get too much credit/acclaim as it is.
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 03:49:03 PM »
Bjorn, if  I ever get to visit your area of PA,  I am definitely gonna buy you a soda ( or whatever you drink)  I may not agree with everything you post, but doggone it,  I gotta give you credit for not being afraid to speak your mind.   X:X

honestly,  I probably agree with about 90% of your posts as read so far, but that's neither here or there.  There are some folks out there in this world who feel compelled to make things more difficult than they have to be so they can feel good about having to explain it to everyone else.  it makes them feel smarter.  nevermind that the issue didn't need to be made complicated in the first place.

not only that, but making things more difficult than they have to be gives them the illusion of accomplishment.

why, by doing things *this* way, we can create jobs and money and titles and authority that can only exist as long as the pretension exists.

regardless of party affiliation, I tend to look more critically at those in office who are making things harder than they have to be and who is maintaining the status quo so as not to lose all the perks of what the convolution has gotten them.

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 05:41:43 PM »
or naming schools after presidents that haven't even completed a full term

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 05:48:56 PM »
I want a strip club named after me! :-D

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2010, 08:04:40 PM »
I want a strip club named after me! :-D

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2010, 10:01:58 PM »
I want a strip club named after me! :-D

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2010, 10:45:21 PM »
Oh no you didn't  :shock:
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2010, 10:48:59 PM »
that's just......WRONG!   :shock:   :evil:
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 12:12:11 AM »
I'm lovin' that! I think I'll bring that up at the next county council meeting!

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"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2010, 09:35:53 AM »
Bjorn writes:
You calling me or any "voter" an idiot or assuming the same, for feeling that way, is a whole different thing.

But I would not expect anything different from a academia elitist leftist U.N. loving beekeeper...

tecumseh:
reading comprehension still a problem for ya' huh Bjorn?  just show me where I use the word idiot?

ps... I may be a loving beekeeper but I am definitely not either an academic, nor an elitist, nor a lefty (well actually I am right handed).  the name calling, right vs left, does seem to work for certain folks.
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2010, 06:13:57 PM »
Hey Tec,
I'll show you where you called me an idiot, when you show me where I said you did.

I think I gave you a choice....calling me an idiot OR assuming the same. I never said you did called me an idiot. Maybe you should go back and read that again.  ;)

I think you have fetish about worrying about others in comprehending what you say, while you also seeming suggest from post to post that the average person visiting this site is unable to comprehend the boorish slop you throw around. Oh wait...need I point to your other denigrating comments thrown around now...or wait for you to claim that you don't do that either....  :lau:
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2010, 06:16:37 PM »
Can we please just get back to my strip club? :-D

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"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2010, 06:17:59 PM »
Oh what the heck...lets just jump this discussion a few feet forwards and just point at one of those denigrating boorish comments.... See Post #54

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2010, 07:09:19 PM »
Can we please just get back to my strip club? :-D

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I agree..... :-D
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 08:27:28 AM »
bjorn writes:
denigrating boorish comments

tecumseh:
well I ain't so certain how you have some meaningful conversation with anyone that says something quite plainly then denies the same statement two post later.  this takes denial to an entire different level.

as to the snip above... if you look closely this shoe may fit on your own feet. 
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 10:38:51 AM »
Once gain Tec....state where I stated what you claim.

Don't side step, rationalize or change the subject.

I stated you either call me (or others) idiots or assume they are, and you have taken that position over and over again by your own comments.

Anyone that can post by starting with boorish comments such as "I suspect this may sound way to academic for this crowd" is just what I said. You either directly or indirectly are calling members of this forum idiots.

So go ahead and sling the crap and mince my words. I'll leave yours as crystal clear as they are. And I think most can see your boorish comments for what they are.

Enough said.
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 10:49:56 AM »
Tec,
How about this.....

Lets do what we usually do, like all the other forums I go to and you follow behind. Lets just ignore each other and I'll pretend you don't exist, and you can do the same for me. That way I don't get my fingers slapped.

I'll do my part. And I ask the same from you.  ;)
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 11:10:01 PM »
Name a prison after them.
That would be too generous.  How about a toilet in a prison?

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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2010, 02:24:43 PM »
Tec,
   Take it easy. Bjorn is understandably upset over the loss of Specter.  As a Republican since 1965, Specter has won every Republican primary, and gone on to win the general election as well (despite the lefties up there). Then Specter switches parties and the over-educated liberal Pennsylvanians deny Bjorn and the other Right thinking Republicans the chance to send Specter back to Washington. Bjorn's been cheated. The Republicans have been cheated. The people of the Great State of Pennsylvania have been cheated.
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2010, 03:00:17 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2010, 04:43:05 PM »
Me thinks Tec assuming some are idiots are not that far off the mark..... :lau: :lau: :lau:

Oh wait,


wait.................    :lau:

That was too easy....... :-*

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2010, 08:28:02 AM »
bjorn writes:
'Don't side step, rationalize or change the subject.

I stated you either call me (or others) idiots or assume they are, and you have taken that position over and over again by your own comments.'

tecumseh:
humm... so you could not find where I had called any of my fellow citizens IDIOTS so you decided to sling some more mud to see if that would stick?

you seem to PROJECT a lot of your own FEELING onto what others write???

then bjorn writes:
Lets do what we usually do, like all the other forums I go to and you follow behind. Lets just ignore each other and I'll pretend you don't exist, and you can do the same for me. That way I don't get my fingers slapped.

I'll do my part. And I ask the same from you.

tecumseh:
humm... some cannot even follow their own advice.   
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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2010, 02:25:28 PM »
bjorn writes:
'Don't side step, rationalize or change the subject.

I stated you either call me (or others) idiots or assume they are, and you have taken that position over and over again by your own comments.'

tecumseh:
humm... so you could not find where I had called any of my fellow citizens IDIOTS so you decided to sling some more mud to see if that would stick?

you seem to PROJECT a lot of your own FEELING onto what others write???

then bjorn writes:
Lets do what we usually do, like all the other forums I go to and you follow behind. Lets just ignore each other and I'll pretend you don't exist, and you can do the same for me. That way I don't get my fingers slapped.

I'll do my part. And I ask the same from you.

tecumseh:
humm... some cannot even follow their own advice.   

Do you read what you write? you make very little sense, you write saying one thing while doing another. Also, you do know you can direct quote by clicking a button no need for the senseless typing of names.
But then again I am one of those idiots you refered to

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Re: Public Servants or Gods....
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2010, 09:17:12 AM »
once again (and a comment direct at Keith) show me EXACTLY where I called you or anyone else on this forum and 'IDIOT'.

do you have a problem with FACT?

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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2010, 11:03:22 AM »
I want a strip club named after me! :-D

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Would that be male strippers?

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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2010, 03:19:05 PM »
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