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Pollen substitute recipes
« on: January 26, 2016, 04:19:41 PM »
Our bees are bringing what we think is huge amounts of maize pollen, which the literature is a poor pollen for breeding bees.
When it stops we would like to attempt to feed them to keep the breeding on lline.
Will they use a pollen substitute of good quality when carting in poor quality maize pollen?
Please put up your pollen substitute recipes or what commercial substitutes have worked for you?

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2016, 07:22:52 PM »
Bees will gather the most nutritious pollen they can find.  Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's substandard.  But odds are if anything is blooming there will soon be something better blooming.  I use straight pollen.  If I'm short on straight pollen, I use half pollen and half full fat soy flour.
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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 03:47:44 AM »
Never had any great success with any of the commercial mixes. Where abouts are your bees at the moment?  Can you move them to a better option.?

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 05:23:17 PM »
Next best thing is 2 weeks away at the best, grey box, which is only average pollen.
If the bees don,t breed strong bees on grey box and go into winter off grey box then the bee population declines dramatically over winter. The area where the grey box is has nothing else flowering at the time. 
If I could provide a top up pollen source and keep the brood strong into late autumn, bee population will be good to go to almonds and then I hope to have a stronger start into spring.
Any one out there had experience with "Feedbee"?

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2016, 07:34:54 AM »
Grey box has started already, about 2 weeks ago. Never known it to flower in January, but everything's about 3 weeks ahead this season. Well that's around mansfield, yea etc. Blue gum, messmate are doing well in the hills with manna gum and swamp gum to follow.
Your bees will be struggling after Almonds if grey box pollen is all they have had.
I found "feed bee" to be better than "bee build", but wouldn't buy either of them again of I can help it. I hope that helps....
Any stringy bark or blue gum where your grey box location is.?

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 05:51:15 AM »
no one had any experience with "feedbee"?
Can you use milk powder as a pollen substitute?  Price is not an issue, just can you use it. Mixed with yeast?

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 06:15:09 AM »
Do you have any sites in the northeast, up in the hills? Can you purchase pollen from anyone?

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 04:43:19 PM »
We don't have any sites in the NE Victoria. We are hoping to shift to Grey Box by the end of the month.
We are also trying to get our bees stronger going into winter, so the enquiry on pollen substitutes to supplement the Grey Box pollen intake both for quantity and quality.

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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 05:58:10 PM »
Seven replies and not one recipe. Maybe the title needs to be changed?

How about 80% spent brewer's yeast, 10% soy flour, 10% dried egg yolk. That recipe seems to work well on this side the earth's belt.
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Re: Pollen substitute recipes
« Reply #9 on: Today at 06:09:09 AM »
Hi iddee
Thanks for the recipe, if I changed the title I would get even less recipes.
Q. Is the soyflour full fat or defatted?

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