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Offline Culley

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2014, 10:44:09 PM »
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So far  I cant see any advantages of wood apart from cost but maybe I'm worrying too much and they will last ok. Also worry about bee's and honey being exposed to the copper nap when paintwork deteriorates.

Willy

Willy, I look after some hives in Northern NSW too, in an area where it rains all the time and we have white ants (like termites) that eat wood too! I find if the wooden stuff is put together well and painted well, and kept off the ground, it lasts well. I've never tried plastic hives.

But here's an advantage. If a corner of a super gets bad, I can cut the super in half and make it into a nuc. I can easily make supers into bottom boxes, etc, or make bottom boxes into supers.

I don't know how plastic compares to wood in providing insulation.

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2015, 09:11:07 PM »
Hello,
I'm about to start out with bees & find this forum very informative. I located on the Mid North Coast of NSW, Aust, and my plan is to start with a few hives, but as I have just sold my business, I may get into bees commercially down the track. therefore I'd like to makesure I get the correct gear first up. I'm pretty sold on plastic boxes over timber, for all the reasons given above. It seems you get a different answer from everyone you ask, and the more experienced people don't seem that keen on plastic. If I could get some feedback on the below points, it would be much appreciated;
* which supplier of plastic boxes is best, as they all seem to have their positives & negatives?
* do you need vented lids and bottom boards for my area?
* do you need small hive beetle traps in each hive for my area? Do beetle traps work with vented bottom board?
* what foundation to use? The feedback so far has been not to use full plastic in the brood, but it is ok for the supers, is this correct?
Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2015, 11:20:50 PM »
Hello,
I'm about to start out with bees & find this forum very informative. I located on the Mid North Coast of NSW, Aust, and my plan is to start with a few hives, but as I have just sold my business, I may get into bees commercially down the track. therefore I'd like to makesure I get the correct gear first up. I'm pretty sold on plastic boxes over timber, for all the reasons given above. It seems you get a different answer from everyone you ask, and the more experienced people don't seem that keen on plastic. If I could get some feedback on the below points, it would be much appreciated;
* which supplier of plastic boxes is best, as they all seem to have their positives & negatives?
* do you need vented lids and bottom boards for my area?
* do you need small hive beetle traps in each hive for my area? Do beetle traps work with vented bottom board?
* what foundation to use? The feedback so far has been not to use full plastic in the brood, but it is ok for the supers, is this correct?
Thanks in advance.

Welcome to the forum Burta. It's a good idea to post a hello in the introductions section and make sure to check out the Down Under forum.  :smile:

I have hives in the Northern Rivers, NSW. Most people (including me) use vented lids. You need something to control small hive beetles. They are very serious in Northern NSW. I'm using Apithor.

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2015, 04:32:43 AM »
what do you do if you are unlucky enough to get AFB in a plastic box
you cant burn them ??????

Boil em?

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2015, 08:32:26 AM »
what do you do if you are unlucky enough to get AFB in a plastic box
you cant burn them ??????

Boil em?

Not hot enough. People who use wax dipping heat it to 160c for 10 mins

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2015, 09:26:20 AM »
I know it's old but I can't help it...

>from what I hear the terms are pretty similar but our US cousins say aluminium funny

Actually after we spell it correctly, "aluminum," it's pronounced correctly "a LUM i num".  The way you spell it, I suppose you HAVE to call it "al you MIN i um"  Your version has five syllables (or is it sy LAB bles)  and ours has four...

The only weirder thing than "al you MIN i um" is "EVIL lution."
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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2015, 05:17:42 PM »
I would miss the assembly part of wooden boxes! Somehow I find it quite relaxing. Just me I guess!

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2015, 07:09:50 PM »
Over here its a Jaguar over there its a Jagua?  Over here a boot is what we wear out in the mud, over there its the trunk of a car?  A bonnet might be a womans hat, OR the HOOD of a car?  Over there pi$$ed is drunk, over here its mad.. I could go on for a while!!     :grin:

   If I had AFB in plastic, be it a hive or frames theyd still get burnt just as fast as I could coat them with gasoline, throw the match and run.   I have no intent of fooling around with AFB in any way shape or form.  Went ot a meeting where a fellow brought frames to show everyone AFB Scales.. I backed out the door and left as fast as I could..  silly? Maybe, but dont care!!!
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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2015, 05:45:23 PM »
I know it's old but I can't help it...

>from what I hear the terms are pretty similar but our US cousins say aluminium funny

Actually after we spell it correctly, "aluminum," it's pronounced correctly "a LUM i num".  The way you spell it, I suppose you HAVE to call it "al you MIN i um"  Your version has five syllables (or is it sy LAB bles)  and ours has four...

The only weirder thing than "al you MIN i um" is "EVIL lution."

How about Labratory, Nukuler and Misserl?

Oh and deeeefence.

And Erbs.

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2015, 07:42:50 PM »


How about Labratory, Nukler and Misserl?

Oh and deeeefence.

And Erbs.

The others i can understand but I could never get how they call it "Erbs".. Silent H like a silent G in Gnome
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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2015, 01:13:11 AM »
Over the years I have tried most new things in Beekeeping ...and have come to the conclusion that timber, wax and Stainless Steel ( for wire) is best accepted by my bees and I stick to it.

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Re: Anyone use plastic bee hives?
« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2015, 09:56:03 PM »
Over the years I have tried most new things in Beekeeping ...and have come to the conclusion that timber, wax and Stainless Steel ( for wire) is best accepted by my bees and I stick to it.

As a time-poor hobbyist who can't be bothered with spending hours of downtime and cleaning up the mess of, preserving and painting or watching stuff go rotten, the idea of plastic hives suits me.

Having seen wild hives which have voluntarily established themselves inside derelict car bodies, piles of tyres, 44 gallon drums and plastic compost bins, I think the bees will accept anything as long as it's reasonably weather-tight and sufficiently spacious.

I took delivery of a couple Nuplas hives this week - assembly took maybe 2 mins per box; the bases and lids are ready made, no assembly required and they are built like the proverbial brick sh-thouse, very robust.

They were a bit pricey, compared with buying timber components but by the time you price in the cost of paint, the time taken to paint them; [I'm self-employed with limited spare time, so unless it's something I actually enjoy doing, (I hate painting), then the hours spent painting are very costly to me] so I reckon that they are cost effective in the long term.

I'm sticking with timber/wire frames though. I enjoy making those up, wiring & embedding, so the above stricture doesn't apply.  :wink:
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