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Author Topic: Latest Dates to Split a hive in Sydney NSW  (Read 351 times)
Chiefman
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« on: December 14, 2014, 01:13:06 AM »

I would like to know what everyones thoughts and or experiences on the Latest dates to split a hive in here Sydney NSW?

I was hoping to help out a mate with a 4 frame Nuc doing a walkaway split, but my hive is not quite there yet.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 02:07:44 AM »

You have one hive and its new this year? If that is right I would not be splitting it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 05:32:19 AM »

You have one hive and its new this year? If that is right I would not be splitting it.

No more than one.  I wanted to use that one for its genetics. If I was to split it or any hive off as long as possible what is the latest i could do the split ?
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 06:05:48 PM »

Are you wanting to make a 4 frame nuc and leave it to raise a queen? I wouldn't do that any time of year. Also if the hive is not strong enough to split right now, I probably wouldn't split it this year.

A queen or some good queen cells would give a nuc a massive head start.

I've done walkaway splits, artificial swarms, nucs, but only in spring when the bees are swarming anyway.

I only have a couple of years experience though. Good luck.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 02:15:01 AM »

I agree with Culley. Bit late now.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 07:23:21 AM »

I agree with Culley. Bit late now.

Serious ?? Summer is just ramping up here. Surely there are a few months left in the season. Drones are still flying and have not been kicked out of the hives yet
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 04:32:37 PM »

Its not about getting a queen and mated, how about giving the hive time to build up before winter. I know winter is very moderate in Sydney but they still use up their stores. If you really want to do a split of course you can but make sure you feed it well. Do you get a summer derth? We certainly do.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 01:01:57 AM »

Serious ?? Summer is just ramping up here. Surely there are a few months left in the season. Drones are still flying and have not been kicked out of the hives yet

Not because I don't think a nuc or a new split would do well now.

When you get hives coming into early spring looking like you could split them already, those are the ones I would split. I would not split that hive because you said it isn't quite ready to split yet, and it's December. I would not weaken it this year by splitting it.

But this is based on my limited experience, in my area.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 08:04:45 PM »

Ok makes sense, what about if we are splitting from a strong hive? When is the latest we could split it. I am prepared to feed it regularly if required.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2014, 11:21:15 PM »

You could split a strong hive but make sure you feed both offspring hives and they are both strong and you put the non-queen split in the ofiginal position to benefit from drifting workers. Don't e pect to get any honey of either hive this season though.

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