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« on: September 03, 2010, 01:12:31 PM »

Would anyone be interested in teaming up with me on an extraction/cut out from a house in Delhi, New York?  I don't have a bee vac and I'm looking to work with someone who has one. Feel free to email:
rocksnroses@gmail.com

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2010, 03:59:18 PM »

Personally I think it is too late in the season for a cut out if you want the bees to have a chance at surviving the winter. A cut out is very stressful on the colony and there is not a lot of time for them to recover before winter.  Not sure about up in Delhi,  but there are very few wax building days left around here depending on the weather.

Not to mention the huge undertaking of dealing with the large population of bees and honey this late in the season.   By waiting until spring, a large portion of the honey will have been consumed, especially around the brood nest.  and the bee population will be at a low as well.   If this is your first cut-out,  I don't think you know what your in for tackling a cut-out this time of year with honey being stored everywhere.  Generally speaking,  bees get a little more fickle this time of year as well.

I've already booked a couple for next spring.   My feeling is that if the people have lived with them all summer,  they can wait until spring when it is easier on the beekeeper and bees.   If your doing it for the money, make sure you add a premium for the additional effort it will take.   Most people have no problem waiting until spring if they know it will be cheaper.  Especially when I tell them there is a possibility that the bees won't make it through the winter and then they can handle it themselves.

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2010, 07:33:23 PM »

i agree, if you can put it off.  i just turned one down yesterday.  no point in doing all that work and having them die.  hated to do it because i know they'll kill them, but.....
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2010, 08:56:30 AM »

In your neck of the woods I would agree with the others to wait til spring. BTW, you don't need a bee vac to do any removal.

When spring rolls around like Rob mentioned you will have way less bees to deal with making the bee vac even less necessary.

If you watch some of my videos I rarely ever use a vac.


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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2010, 10:19:24 AM »

i haven't made mine yet.  it's still on my TDL.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 04:31:23 PM »

Yeah.  It's late in the season and suggested to the property owner to wait till next spring.  She's okay with it.  The bees will wait. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 04:40:50 PM »

try to get at it fairly early. the less honey they have put in, the less mess as you remove.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2011, 10:26:04 AM »

Did you get the bees this spring or did they not make it?
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2011, 10:31:52 AM »

I haven't done that one yet.  Now they have two colonies inside.  I'll get to them.

I'm getting a good number of calls.  I have two more removals set up in coming weeks.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2011, 10:42:49 AM »

cool, survivors!
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