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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2010, 02:57:28 PM » |
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I just thought about this. Then installing starter strips, why glue them in with wax? Will not wood glue work? Bees will work the strip just as well and to glue them in with glue rather than wax would be much easier. Something else to ponder on.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2010, 05:03:01 PM » |
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On Michael Bush website he says that there is no point, bees will do the wax to wood bond better than you can can by melting it.
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2010, 05:44:29 PM » |
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i have lots of wax, so it's cheaper for me.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2010, 06:15:19 PM » |
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It may be cheaper for you, but is it easier? If you compare cooking (microwaving) the wax to just popping the top of the glue? And most of the time the glue is already out from gluing frames.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2010, 06:18:56 PM » |
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time i have. it also sets more quickly. i'm sure glue would be fine, or not using anything if you can get it in tightly enough.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2010, 11:00:29 PM » |
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When you put foundation into frame, cut a10 mm gap between bottom bar and foundation If the gap is too narrow, foundation makes a curve when it enlarges in the heat of the hive
It is good to makes a bigger gap for drones If bees have nt free space for drone cells, they make them here and there If they have certain places, the other frames will be more tidy.
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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2010, 03:48:22 AM » |
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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2010, 04:49:10 AM » |
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I use the same trick as Kathy P for the foundations - when I harvest the honey, I leave about 3/4" of "foundation" on the top (I cut the wax out) and if I have the whole super in the house I scrape the cells on the part I left attached.
I do the same for the brood foundation.
It seems to work well enough - they just build it how you've asked them to with a few exceptions.
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