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Offline Ocean

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« on: May 24, 2005, 11:12:55 AM »
Well after about 1month and a half, i stopped refilling the sugar water to my bees. I dunno i thought it would be the best thing for them?

am i wrong?

Please correct me if iam wrong

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2005, 11:29:05 AM »
It is usually recommended to feed them until they quit takeing it, which is usually a good indication that a flow is on and they would rather have the nectar instead of the imitation you have provided.

Sugar water is less expensive than Honey, the more syrup you feed them the less honey they will consume in order to draw out foundation(if in fact that is is why you are feeding in the first place).  Therefore you will have more honey to harvest in the fall.

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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2005, 11:51:03 AM »
thanx for the good explanation, what i thought was that my honey will be made out of sugar water and not out of honey
thats why i made that decission but i guess u corrected me ;)

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2005, 11:55:42 AM »
They will add the syrup to the honey if they have way more than they need.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2005, 11:56:43 AM »
one more question if you dont mind.

iam making sugar syrup right now, for this time of year

I live in North New Jersey the weather here is still kinda chilly...

i have a 1 galon of spring water , how much should i fill it with sugar?

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2005, 12:45:07 PM »
There should be a flow.  It won't hurt to not feed them.  It won't hurt to feed them.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2005, 05:53:51 PM »
Ocean, you don't say if your hives are new or not.  If the foundations have been completely drawn out (not likely if they're new this year) then probably no problem stopping.  If you have new foundations that the bees are still working on drawing out, personally, I think you're better leaving the sugar water on for a little while.  You (us as well) have had a cold spring, and I think alot of blooms are delayed.  They will stop taking it when nectar is readily available.

I make my spring mixture 1:1, so I measure out, 5 cups of water, and 5 cups of sugar, 3 cups of water, 3 cups of sugar, ect.

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2005, 11:50:31 PM »
I'm not sure But I think that 1;1 stuff refers to weight not volume
 I was told by a thirty some year bee keeper
(10 bls of sugar to 5-6qts of water)

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2005, 12:01:48 AM »
A 1:1 sugar mixture is one quart of water to one pound of sugar. So if you buy sugar in the supermarket in those 5 lb. packages, then you need to mix it with 5 quarts of water to get a 1:1 ratio. Now 5 quarts is one quart more than a gallon, so it's more than a gallon of water to a 5 lb. bag of sugar. If you have sugar in bulk and want to mix it with a cup measure, it's about  2 cups of sugar to a pound. So, to re-cap, 2 cups of sugar to one quart of water for a 1:1 ratio. 5 quarts of water to 5 lbs. of sugar for a 1:1 ratio. In the end, the girls will take whatever you give them and use it happily! :D
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2005, 12:24:27 AM »
for my 1 to 1 mixture, I put a pound of sugar to a pint of water, 2 pint equals a quart so a 5 pound bag of sugar with 5 pints water or 2 quarts and a pint of water, but thats just how I mix it.  


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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2005, 07:28:25 AM »
Well, I think it's obvious that a 1:1 mixture has about 5,000 different meanings.

I was always told it was by weight also.  2.5 Quarts water to 5lbs sugar.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2005, 09:13:04 AM »
1 pound sugar - 1 pint water
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2005, 10:20:29 AM »
wow sooooo many answers!!!

 if one gallon is eight lbs.  then a quart is two lbs.
that means 2.5qts of water to a 5lbs bag that would be
 a 1:1 ratio
 now knowing that,
  1gal.=8lbs water. it needs 8 lbs of sugar for a 1:1 ratio

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2005, 11:50:53 AM »
You measure the sugar by wieght but you measure the water by volume.

One pint water to one pound of sugar.
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2005, 11:59:09 AM »
Beekeeping for Dummies page 91;

"Boil 2 1/2 quarts of water on the stove. When it comes to a rolling boil, turn off the heat and add 5 pounds of white granulated sugar."

Or five pints of water to five pound of suger. Equals one pint water to one pound sugar.

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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2005, 12:06:18 PM »
I think the mix up comes in when you throw in the other ratios. 2:1, 1:1, 1:2.
They all have different reasons for using them. But  then people get to thinking the 2 pints is two quarts and turn it into the "1" so now 1:1 means one quart.

Then others think you do both by wieght.  Or you do both by volume. Then somewhere along the way someone gets the mixed up info and they tell their friend, who tell their friends, and soon it is blown all out of proportion.
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2005, 12:42:21 PM »
ok thats it!!!
they can mix they're own
 I'll just put the water and the sugar infront of the hives
and the meds, and the pollen sub.
And they'll just take what they need :lol:

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2005, 02:45:16 PM »
Quote from: Jerrymac
I think the mix up comes in when you throw in the other ratios. 2:1, 1:1, 1:2.
They all have different reasons for using them. But  then people get to thinking the 2 pints is two quarts and turn it into the "1" so now 1:1 means one quart.



BAHAHAHAHA!!! I have done this Jerry , the way I could tell is when I was finished and put it in a jar it looked clear, 1:1 looks kind of yellow and thicker. I sometimes forget about when I have a 25# bag of sugar and like Jay said its 2 cups per pound of sugar, I get mixed up counting when making a few gallons in 1 big pot.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2005, 03:02:18 PM »
Since a pint of sugar weighs close to a pound and a pint of water weighs almost exactly a pound, and especially since the bees could care less if it's perfect, by weight or by volome is irelevant.  Take your pick.  A pint of water to a pound of sugar.  A pound of water to a pound of sugar.  A pint of sugar to a pound of water.  It's all 1:1 and it's all the same thing for all practical purposes.  Don't worry about it.  Do wichever is more convenient for you.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2005, 09:54:03 PM »
:lol:   Well, obiviously, it matters not what ratio we use.  Shheeeshh!  I guess they WILL happily take whatever we give them!

 

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