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« on: July 06, 2010, 06:15:31 AM »

 
I just heard about this, 1/3 of the U.S. capacity (Texas) is shutting down by EPA order. This may cause a panic in the fuel market even if they work out any stop gap measures. This will also cause the layoff of thousands of workers and further ripple effects on down the line. Play this as you see fit. Phone calls (to Reedsport) from refinery workers confirm the shutdown. If true we are looking at at least $8.00 fuel if it isn't solved quickly... Good Luck all..


Via Mark Levin Show
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by Gil Guignat

Whereas Obama is trying to crush Arizona by suing it into the ground to prevent it from defending itself from illegal immigration, and it is preventing any clean up efforts in Louisiana after 71 days, it has just been learned from one of our conatcts in Texas that Obama by way of the EPA has just shut down today 33% of the country’s refining capacity.

While Obama was unsuccessful at putting a moratorium on oil drilling, he was able to accomplish the same thing by putting a stranglehold on oil refining which accomplishes the same thing. With 1/3rd of the country’s oil refining gone what do you think this will do to the economy? this was the inherent threat that Obama had presented for months. either give him Cap and Trade or we will shut everything down through the EPA.

What do you think this will do to the economy of Texas.

Let’s recap what has happened in the last 90 days.

Obama is going after Arizona and trying to cut off all border security aide while suing the state.

He is making no attempt to stop the oil leak in Louisiana. This is now affecting the economies of Louisiana, Texas, Georgia and Florida.

He is going after Texas and with this double whammy of shutting down the refineries and the oil spill the sate that was doing the best in the country is now being taken down.

So far Obama has completely trashed five states and is in the process of destroying their economies. What chance do you think there is of a recovery

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“EPA overturns 16-year-old Texas permit program

By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI, Associated Press Writer Ramit Plushnick-masti, Associated Press Writer Wed Jun 30, 5:35 pm ET

HOUSTON – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday officially overturned a 16-year-old Texas air permitting program it says violates the Clean Air Act, leaving some of the country’s largest refineries in a state of limbo.The move comes after years of backdoor bickering, negotiations and public arguments between the EPA and Texas. The argument recently escalated from a battle over environmental issues into a heated political dispute over states’ rights.

He has been using it to drive home his contention that President Barack Obama’s administration is overreaching, saying in a statement Wednesday that “Texas will continue to fight this federal takeover of a successful state program.”The EPA’s decision, announced in a statement, will force some 125 refineries and petrochemical plants to invest millions of dollars to get new permits. Many of the plants may also have to invest in updates to comply with federal regulations.” More at Yahoo News…

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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 11:14:48 AM »

Geez, they are just mad because a judge overturned Obama's ban on deep sea drilling.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 08:02:29 PM »

At no time since the Civil War has the issue of States rights,even the right to secede from the union,been so openly and seriously discussed.
If there was ever a fast and furious expansion of federal powers it is now. This is what happens when our education system fails to teach that the only power the federal government has is that granted by  the states and the people.Most now assume power comes from the Federal Government.
This only perpetuates the ability of our federal Government to remove liberties as they see fit.
Hopefully Texas and Arizona will not have to take this route.
Texas could probably manage on her own, as I think the state has the fifteenth largest economy in the world?
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 08:13:35 PM »

obama wants to destroy the coal industry.  i'm sure he feels the same way about oil.  he wants to push the green crap, but look at what happened to Spain.  it about broke them and now those green companies from Spain are in the US trying to stay afloat by selling the same stuff to us.

obama is using the power of the federal agencies to do what hugo has done. obama just has to go a little slower because he hasn't gotten our guns yet.  the more i have learned about the man and his background, the more i am convinced that he is a communist.  he's gone to great lengths to hide it, but that's the way he was brought up and those are the people he has hung out with all his life.

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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 11:21:19 PM »

maybe we will finally get the hydrogen cars and let the middle east drink the oil
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 11:23:05 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 12:50:24 PM »

maybe we will finally get the hydrogen cars and let the middle east drink the oil

More likely a few rich people (and politicians of course!) will drive the few super expensive hydrogen cars while the rest of us are left only using our legs for transportation.  Which will of course be just fine because we need to stay healthy because the incredibly awesome healthcare system that we'll have will only be able to handle the healthy people.

But that is how the elite want it. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 03:24:45 AM »

if only three other states did the same thing as AZ
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 07:24:55 PM »

Maybe we will make the move to a hydrogen powered car alot faster if we go to 8.00 per gallon.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 10:11:23 PM »

let's see.  what might happen to the cost of food, clothing, etc. if we went to 8 bucks a gallon?  how might that impact an already faltering economy?

 maybe we can think of something better....like DRILLING OUR OWN OIL, and not doing stupid stuff like not permitting refineries, not letting tree huggers keep us from producing and refining oil, not regulating things half to death....and not making rigs drill miles out and miles deep?  and how about those mandated mix changes that happen twice a year in some places and screw up my lawn care equipment?Huh??
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 01:26:32 AM »

I just read another article wherein Congress is withholding funds to Texas unless certain requirements are met by Texas, and specifically, the Governor. Looks like washington is putting the all points squeeze on Texas to fall in line.
http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2010/08/05/%E2%80%9Cno-distribution-shall-be-made-to-the-state-of-texas%E2%80%9D/
Dirty, dirty, dirty politics.
I think the Government may get a nasty surprise from Texas though. If the clean, honest politicians would just learn to publicly expose the filthy extortion games they play in Washington with unflapping honesty, the public would loudly disapprove. It's truly 'them Vs. us' now and they've gotten sloppy at keeping it quiet.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 10:14:17 AM »

I guess if Texas stops sending money to the Federal government then Texas wouldn't have to worry about getting it back from them.  Jerry
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 11:34:22 AM »

If Texas were it's own nation,it's economy be be the tenth largest in the world by GDP (gross domestic product). you can only guess what might happen if Texas never sent the money to the federal government.I think most states would prosper better keeping the money at home than sending a dollar to Washington to get fifty cents back.
  I think it is time to send a reminder to Washinton that we are a collective of states that petitioned to join the union. We are not a collective annexed by the federal government like Poland  and a lot of eastern Europe was taken by the Soviet Union.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2010, 12:04:12 PM »

maybe TX can just cut off the oil and close the ports and refineries....or stop selling the stuff.  i know....owned by private companies....but still  grin  wouldn't you  just love to see TX flip off the the feds.  i think the AZ thing is making other states stand up and take notice.


on another topic, kind of, what do you all think of this?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/06/wyoming-grand-teton-national-park
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2010, 12:26:06 PM »

Go get'em, Governor. More power to you.
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