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Author Topic: BRITAIN P.M. ASKING PRISIDANT OBAMA TO TONE DOWN CRITICISM  (Read 2098 times)
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« on: June 12, 2010, 10:38:54 PM »

TODAY BRITISH P M ASKED OBAMA TO TONE DOWN CRITICISM  OF B P,FEARING IT WILL HURT MILLIONSOF BRITISH RETIREES HOLDING B P STOCK THAT HAS TAKEN A BEATING IN THE PASS FEW WEEKS.WHAT ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS WHO LOST THEIR JOBS  AND WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF BP.THEY WILL LOSE THEIR WAY OF LIFE THEY  NEW FOR GENERATIONS.IF IT WAS UP TO ME I WOULD KEEP MY FOOT ON BP'S THROAT EVERY CHANCE I COULD.   ...SCHAWEE
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 10:56:29 PM »

should we maybe determine who, if anyone, is at fault first?  yes, they need to be responsible for fixing things, to the extent they can be fixed.  that will be hard to do if the company goes in the dumper.  obama seems to detest any company that is private, makes money, or he can not control.  his comments about BP, absent proof of misbehavior and before an investigation is done, are over the top. 

the man doesn't know how to lead, but he seems to be the master of hot air.  maybe he thinks his constant trashing of BP will be cover for his own incompetence in handling this disaster?

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 07:46:43 AM »

But it makes you feel good to beat a dying horse, right?      I would like to hear the finances of PB to see how much longer they can last with this rate of payout for the clean up and lawsuits that are coming.    I hear on the radio the Rosie O'donnell has a radio show and she was talking about the take over of PB.   She said the gov. should grab the whole company after this.   She has no clue what that would cost.   And she is not the only person talking about government take over of PB.   What good would that do?
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 10:33:01 AM »

not only take over the company, she said call it communism, socialism, whatever, just take them over.  not sure that an exact quote, but i'm sure someone will look for it.

we also have Waters and Hinchey who would like to nationalize oil companies.  how many more  have the same opinion but have been quiet.  never    let     a    crisis    go     to    waste!
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 06:21:39 PM »

TODAY BRITISH P M ASKED OBAMA TO TONE DOWN CRITICISM  OF B P,FEARING IT WILL HURT MILLIONSOF BRITISH RETIREES HOLDING B P STOCK THAT HAS TAKEN a BEATING IN THE PASS FEW WEEKS.WHAT ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS WHO LOST THEIR JOBS  AND WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF BP.THEY WILL LOSE THEIR WAY OF LIFE THEY  NEW FOR GENERATIONS.IF IT WAS UP TO ME I WOULD KEEP MY FOOT ON BP'S THROAT EVERY CHANCE I COULD.   ...SCHAWEE

BP is not British Petroleum anymore, not for ten years or so, why? because it is 40% American owned. It has twice as many US employees as British employees. So it's failure would also hit a lot of US retirees!
The well it's self was managed by an American Company.
Who designed, built and owns the Drill Rig? would you believe Transocean a American Company!
Who designed and built the blowout preventer valve? Cameron International an American company
Who was respossible for the cementing of the well? Halliburton, An American Company
It is not in anyones interest to see BP file for chapter 11 which is what this dumb president could cause.
Obama has demanded that BP deposits billions of dollars into a ring fenced fund to compensate Americans hit by the oil spill, WHY has he not requested the same of Halliburton and Transocean could it be because the are US Companies
I don't remember this type of rhetoric coming from which ever president was in power at the time of the Union Carbide A US Company disaster
that killed thousands of people in Bopal, India. Was billions ring fenced and the foot of the president on the throat of Union Carbide? but then again in some peoples eyes a few shrimp boats and holiday beaches are a lot more valuable than the people of Bopal.
With a friend like this or any US president who needs enemies?
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 07:09:59 PM »

The UCIL factory was established in 1969 near Bhopal. 50.9% was owned by Union Carbide Corporation (UCC) and 49.1% by various Indian investors, including public sector financial institutions.

Some 25 years after the gas leak, 390 tons of toxic chemicals abandoned at the UCIL plant continue to leak and pollute the groundwater  in the region and affect thousands of Bhopal residents who depend on it,[5][6][7]  though there is some dispute as to whether the chemicals still stored at the site pose any continuing health hazard.[2]

Over two decades since the tragedy, certain civil and criminal cases remain pending in the United States District Court, Manhattan and the District Court of Bhopal, India, against Union Carbide, (now owned by Dow Chemical Company), with an Indian arrest warrant also pending against Warren Anderson, CEO of Union Carbide at the time of the disaster.[8][9] Greenpeace asserts that as the Union Carbide CEO, Anderson knew about a 1982 safety audit of the Bhopal plant, which identified 30 major hazards and that they were not fixed in Bhopal but were fixed at the company's identical plant in the US. In June 2010, seven ex-employees, including the former chairman of UCIL, were convicted in Bhopal of causing death by negligence and sentenced to two years imprisonment and a fine of about $2,000 each, the maximum punishment allowed by law. An eighth former employee was also convicted but had died before judgment was passed.[10]

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 07:37:34 PM »

talked to a Canadian who would be happy to have Obama.  she thinks he's the best thing ever.  any bids from the Brits??

just a note, though.... it's more than a few shrimp boats.  between tourism and fishing we are looking a 100s of thousands of jobs impacted.  obama doubled down on that by suspending drilling.  that's a pretty large chunk of the country who's livelihood and lifestyle is gone for the foreseeable future.

this may or may not fall under the SH category.  no amount of throat stepping on will fix it.  some leadership might help in both the short and long run......
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 07:46:19 PM »

Remember in Louisiana, more people are tied to the oil industry that fishing and tourism combined.   The oil slick in going to affect everybody in the whole region soon.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 07:57:30 PM »

I moved out to Berwick LA as a teenager specifically to work in the oil industry (the food kept me there longer than I should have stayed). Both Berwick and it's sister city Morgan City are (or were anyway) almost 100% oil driven economies. I'd imagine those two towns could go down the tubes pretty quickly...many other like them as well.

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 11:18:38 PM »

scott,berwick la as a teenager man that was a long time ago.yes it still an oil driven economie along with alot more towns and citys.   ...schawee
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2010, 07:43:46 AM »

talked to a Canadian who would be happy to have Obama.  she thinks he's the best thing ever.  any bids from the Brits??


Only if you took 'Call me Dave' Cameron and his bag carrier Clegg in exchange, we could then put Obama out to grass where he belongs! Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2010, 10:39:21 AM »

all this man knows how to do is point fingers, assign blame and prematurely voice a prejudiced opinion.
this was quite evident early on resulting in the infamous beer summit and continued with statements about CEOs,
doctors, insurance companies, Wall Street bankers, you name it.    last night he once again claimed that since day one
the federal government has been "in charge".   he can't have it both ways.
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2010, 10:43:09 AM »

forgot he was going to be on.  missed it.  reviews from both sides were not so good.
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2010, 11:10:34 AM »

Re: Speech
I knew it was going to be on, but I choose not to watch it. I didn't feel like putting on my hip boots in order to wade through the crap that I thought I would hear. I did watch it later, but I wasn't impressed.

I have to say that I was surprised that MSNBC's Olberman and Matthew's bashed his speech. I was equally surprised when Carvelle came down on him a little while ago, then again he does live in the affected area. I think many are getting frustrated, they want to see more action, less talk/committees.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2010, 04:49:10 PM »

I am convinced that the Obama Clown College ( also know as his Administration ) many Neo-Environmental Groups and most of the Media Networks have an Anti-Oil Agenda. They truly believe we can switch to Green Energy overnight and still maintain a sound economy wholly subsidized by the Gov.
I am not defending BP per se, but darn, are they really doing the best they can ? And can our incompetent Gov do a better job ? ( No )

I am also convinced of Obama's Social Utopia Agenda too, whereas the total destruction of the USA, which by the way, has been tearing along the seams for years.

















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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2010, 02:27:15 AM »

talked to a Canadian who would be happy to have Obama.  she thinks he's the best thing ever.  any bids from the Brits??

just a note, though.... it's more than a few shrimp boats.  between tourism and fishing we are looking a 100s of thousands of jobs impacted.  obama doubled down on that by suspending drilling.  that's a pretty large chunk of the country who's livelihood and lifestyle is gone for the foreseeable future.

this may or may not fall under the SH category.  no amount of throat stepping on will fix it.  some leadership might help in both the short and long run......
     We have a sucker ,err buyer pass him on before they get wise bidding will not be nescisary.
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