Need Bees Removed?
International
Beekeeping Forums
December 28, 2014, 11:46:16 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Beemaster's official FACEBOOK page
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar bee removal Login Register Chat  

Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Wire or fishing line?  (Read 2736 times)
Greg watkevich
House Bee
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 55

Location: Central Massachusetts


« on: June 07, 2010, 08:23:26 PM »

I need to add a second deep onto my 2 new hives.  I'm not using foundations and the lower deep is getting pretty full, but had some difficulty with getting the bees to draw straight comb. Eventually after some comb removal and realignment things look OK.  I want to use some wire as a guide on the second deep.  Hopefully the bees will align and imbed the line into their comb.  I don't have any tinned wire just galvanized wire and don't want to use it because of the coating.  I was wondering if a strong monofilament fishing line would work just as well?  or will the bees eat throught the line?Huh
Thanks,
Greg Watkevich
Logged
PeeVee
House Bee
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 221


Location: Deposit, NY


« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 07:18:42 AM »

"Fatbeeman" has a youtube video of using 50# test line to secure unwired foundation. I've been using wire so far in a foundationless frame but there is no guarantee the comb will be straight. The bees have been building around the wire though. Some frames without wire are just as straight.
Logged

-Paul VanSlyke - Cheers from Deposit,NY
Robo
Technical
Administrator
Galactic Bee
*******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 6439


Location: Scenic Catskill Mountains - NY

Beekeep On!


WWW
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 09:21:30 AM »

Couple of points.

Either run it in the 'X' pattern on both sides with bobby pins like Don does,  or run it the normal way you would wire, BUT do it on both sides for all 4 passes.  If you run it the normal way and alternate sides with each pass,  the foundation will sag into an 'S' shape around the line if the bees don't start drawing it right away.

Also, don't pull the line too tight,  otherwise you will go back to inspect and find some of it snapped.

Logged

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison


fat/beeman
House Bee
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 73


Location: Lula, Georgia


WWW
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 07:09:00 PM »

hello
in my u tube videos I use from 8# to 15 # test line.

if your wanting to cut out queen cells don't use wire
Don
Logged
BjornBee
Galactic Bee
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3773


Location: Lewisberry, PA


« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 01:59:58 PM »

Greg,
I know this is not what you are asking. But I wanted to mention I have almost no problems with foundationless frames when I use mediums. Deeps, yes. Mediums, almost never.

Something to consider.

Logged

www.bjornapiaries.com
www.pennapic.org
Please Support "National Honey Bee Day"
Northern States Queen Breeders Assoc.  www.nsqba.com
deknow
Field Bee
***
Online Online

Gender: Male
Posts: 760


Location: Massachusetts


WWW
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 06:52:24 PM »

Hi Greg,

Getting the bees to draw straight comb is 99% in making the hive level and providing good comb guides (they will sometimes do their own thing anyways, but most of the time this works well).  If these are not attended to, you will not have straight comb.

I don't think wire or fishing line will have any impact on how straight they will make comb, and I believe that they will incorporate either into the comb just fine.  We use all deeps, mostly foundationless, and don't wire at all.

deknow
Logged
hardwood
Galactic Bee
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3482


Location: Osteen, Fl (just south of Daytona)

Alysian Apiaries youtube.com/MrBeedude


« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 06:56:33 PM »

I also run without foundation and all (or nearly so) deeps. As said, leveling the hives is important at first. I have very few problems...no more than with foundation.

Scott
Logged

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Michael Bush
Universal Bee
*******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 13989


Location: Nehawka, NE


WWW
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 07:48:23 PM »

Back when I was using deeps, I'd put a "X" with one cross on one side and the other on the other side and the foundation between...
Logged

Michael Bush
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--Rick Nielsen
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Beemaster's Beekeeping Ring
Previous | Home | Join | Random | Next
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines | Sitemap Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.163 seconds with 22 queries.

Google visited last this page December 22, 2014, 06:18:38 AM
anything