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Offline riverrat

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« on: June 03, 2010, 11:09:21 AM »
I asked the guys at work and even posted on facebook to name one food that humans consume that a plant or animal didnt die for to make the product. Now this doesnt count drinks. I couldnt think of any until a guy in the shop said honey. I never thought of that but honey and pollen are the only 2 things we could think of in which a plant or animal did not directly die to make. I know bees will work them selves to death in the summer but i dont know of any other food item  can anyone think of anything else
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Re: honey
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 11:35:31 AM »
fruit, berries, vegitables,   cheese, milk products,  ice cream,  Ya think about it only good things!

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Re: honey
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 11:56:01 AM »
Nuts...... unfertilized eggs....Is a seed actually living? We eat many seeds.

Mountain oysters.... He didn't die...  :evil:   :-D
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Re: honey
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 01:38:16 PM »
Ham.

Although those pigs sure have a lot of trouble dragging themselves around by their front legs.
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Re: honey
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 01:44:41 PM »
fruit, berries, vegetables,  cheese, milk products,  ice cream,  Ya think about it only good things!
  fruits berries and vegtables are all living things until they are picked cheese is made from enzymes and bacteria that is killed off in the process and I'm not sure about ice cream
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Re: honey
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 05:04:35 PM »
Ham.

Although those pigs sure have a lot of trouble dragging themselves around by their front legs.
Good grief! You are cracking me up today, too :D Must be that midwestern humor...

How about eggs? We eat them by the dozen, and the hens live happily on. Most vegetables, all fruits that I can think of, nuts.

iddee--True, true. But quality of life those first few days afterwards? Ouch!
The pedigree of honey
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Re: honey
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 06:49:31 PM »
berries and nuts and vegetables are living things that are picked once picked the berry or vegtable begins to break down and die eggs are living cells. milk and honey are the only things i can think of and honey is the only one that i can think of that wont go bad that is a natural food
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Re: honey
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 07:14:37 PM »
berries and nuts and vegetables are living things that are picked once picked the berry or vegtable begins to break down and die eggs are living cells. milk and honey are the only things i can think of and honey is the only one that i can think of that wont go bad that is a natural food
Is that what you said first time around?: name one food that humans consume that a plant or animal didnt die for to make the productNothing died to make eggs. Plus, lots and lots of bacteria die in the pasteurizing of milk  :evil: And my berry plants continue on quite well after I have picked their berries. Same with my lettuce, beans, asparagus, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants....
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Re: honey
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 07:18:25 PM »
berries and nuts and vegetables are living things that are picked once picked the berry or vegtable begins to break down and die eggs are living cells. milk and honey are the only things i can think of and honey is the only one that i can think of that wont go bad that is a natural food
Is that what you said first time around?: name one food that humans consume that a plant or animal didnt die for to make the productNothing died to make eggs. Plus, lots and lots of bacteria die in the pasteurizing of milk  :evil: And my berry plants continue on quite well after I have picked their berries. Same with my lettuce, beans, asparagus, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants....

you got me i guess i didnt quite word it right but i think it is an interesting thought to ponder about honey
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Re: honey
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 08:05:11 PM »
I like the ham, 4 legs good, 2 legs better.

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Re: honey
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 08:13:42 PM »
Ok, now I'm just being argumentative, but 1000s of bees die in making honey, 10,000s...
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Re: honey
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2010, 08:16:01 PM »
But would the honey be a by product of the bee's life?

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Re: honey
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 10:33:42 PM »
i guess a better way to word it would be is there any thing a person  can eat that wasnt either living or produced by a living organism. I guess in this world of fast food and processed food it amazes me they havent came up with food that has not been produced or made from a living organism. I think honey is about as close as you can get it doesnt kill the flower that it is collected from the bee doesnt die simply from the nectar but if you think about it I believe it is enzymes in the bees honey stomach that actually turns nectar into honey so with that said even honey is produced by an enzyme which is living. Moral of the story is I got to much time on my hands at work this week running a machine  :evil:
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Re: honey
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:57 PM »
I got it,  a food that we eat that is not a plant or animal to start with.     Olestra!!!!!

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Re: honey
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2010, 10:47:24 PM »
What on earth is Olestra?
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Re: honey
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2010, 10:54:59 PM »
isnt that the artificial lard that they cooked tater chips in that made for a case of the hurry up and get to the outhouse in a person
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2010, 10:56:57 PM »
Yes it is, and you might know it as the name brand Olean.   

But I was wrong also.  Chemists create olestra by combining two naturally occurring substances, sucrose and vegetable oil, to form a molecule that is not found anywhere in nature. Yet the resulting synthetic molecule tastes just like real fats do! Fat is what makes candy bars and french fries so filling (and fattening). With olestra, you get the taste of the fat without any of the calories of the fat, because your body has no way to digest olestra.

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Re: honey
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2010, 11:05:14 PM »
Ahhhh....Now I remember. You pay for a case of the trots.  :-P
The pedigree of honey
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Re: honey
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2010, 11:29:26 PM »
There are food substances made from crude oil, derivatives, colorings.  But technically those were plants.

But we need carbohydrates, fats, and other substances which don't occur without a life form changing the basic molecules, carbon to carbohydrates, etc.

While bees don't necessarily give their lives for the honey, there are plenty in my hives that do when I open up the hives... :roll:
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Re: honey
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2010, 11:32:26 PM »
Oooh, Oooh----I have one!!! Spam!














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The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy.
---Emily Dickinson