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How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« on: May 26, 2010, 09:07:06 PM »
I almost cried today.   :(

I captured two swarms over the weekend. One was the smallest of the season at under a lb, the other was the largest at about 8-10 lb. Today the big honking swarm absconded. They built 30 sq inches of comb but left it. No eggs.

I thought i had a good routine for swarms:

  • 1. House in a 40 liter space or larger.
  • 2. Put a drop of Lemon Grass Oil in the hive
  • 3. Feed Immediately.

On cutouts, I also plug them up for 48 hours to reduce absconding. Should I now do that for swarms as well?
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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 09:14:23 PM »
it happens.  the only other thing you could have done is put an excluder between the bottom box and the bottom board.  i will confess that i often (today) forget to do that.  they do their thing.  sometimes it's not our thing.

also...are you sure you got the queens?
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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 09:17:45 PM »
A frame of brood should anchor them. Works for me.

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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 09:40:23 PM »
With that huge swarm, do think there was a queen, or maybe there are a lot of AHB genetics in that swarm?  They do move around a lot.

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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 11:07:20 PM »
a frame of brood should anchor them. Works for me.

Steve


 Use unsealed brood for and anchor.


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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 11:32:23 PM »
 the only other thing you could have done is put an excluder between the bottom box and the bottom board.  

 If you do this take the excluder out in 2 or 3 days.


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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2010, 11:35:09 PM »
oh yeah....thanks.  didn't mean leave it on forever.  :-)
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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 05:04:18 PM »
Never lost a swarm when I've put a frame of brood in there.  I do it everytime and recommend it to everyone who'll listen.
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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 10:54:39 AM »
cage or clip queen;they leave brood here ; tried it bunch here and just wasted brood, even leave own brood, cage queen for a coupla days and they usually stay
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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 01:04:08 PM »
How the world does a person find a queen among 3 gallons of bees?
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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 01:14:50 PM »
She is the one on the throne.


Or take your time and look, look, look.

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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 05:01:30 PM »
How the world does a person find a queen among 3 gallons of bees?

  In a big swarm you may find more then 1 queen


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Re: How to reduce absconding with a captured swarm?
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2010, 06:31:51 PM »
i have spent at least an hour befor i could get my fingers on her a few times
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