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Offline wd

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Black bee ID
« on: May 03, 2010, 06:29:02 PM »


Wondering if anyone might be able to identify this bee?













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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 10:33:53 PM »
can you get a head shot?  Maybe a good view of the mouth parts?
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 11:09:07 PM »
I don't know much about the west coast, but if I saw that around here, I would think what is that crazy drone honey bee doing.

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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 04:00:21 AM »
mouth parts and a drone? ... gotcha









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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 06:08:16 AM »
No way is that a drone honeybee. Drones have fuzzy rounded butts with wings that extend to the butt.
Looks more like a virgin queen to me. Looks rather dead at that.
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 08:38:55 AM »
I bet if you spent about 30 minutes on www.bugguide.net you'd find it!

Not a drone, not a queen.  There are flies that mimic bees closely, but this one has double wings and the legs are angular like a bee to hold pollen.  Could be a black type honeybee that is older and lost some hair, but I'd say it is more likely to be some type of solitary bee.
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 01:58:16 PM »
Thanks to all for the comments. I guess in a way, the question is kind of like looking for a needle in a hay stack. didn't look like a drone to me .. I thought perhaps a Caucasian bee but I'm not sure. a queen crossed my mind but why does it appear to be collecting pollen? .. a solitary bee never registered. Thank you for the link, I'll take a look  

I'll will try to get some better shots of this black bee, in the mean time, this is what I have



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as described above, drones as I know them




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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 04:27:57 PM »
Grab it and see if will sting you that mite help narrow down your hunt.  :-D
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 04:58:29 PM »
On second thought, I think I ought let this question go. I'll try and find out another way.
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 11:53:19 PM »
Yes, it could be a Carniolan or perhaps Russian, there are several black type bees.
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2010, 06:01:26 PM »
Yes, it could be a Carniolan or perhaps Russian, there are several black type bees.
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 08:55:53 PM »
another good site for insect identification

http://www.whatsthatbug.com/
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2010, 09:48:35 PM »
Yeah, those new pics show it is definitely a honey bee of some sort.

Aside from pictures, I think the only way to figure out what type of black bee, carniolan, russian, german, is through hive behavior and characteristics.  Temperament, swarming, propolis gathering, buildup, etc.
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Re: Black bee ID
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2010, 01:28:41 AM »
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