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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2013, 08:12:41 PM »

well. Monday evening was a bad one for Jones county here in Ga. we had that line of storms come thru. My wind gauge hit 90 mph before it flew away. I lost the blades to one of my turbines. It was the shorter of the two in the pictures. I made the blades my self it was a 6 foot diamerter. then tues it got better. I was at work and got a call from the police that a large swarm was in a tree. I got them. I will post on that later. but I lost no trees but alot of limbs down. we lost power for about 4 hours.


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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2013, 02:37:50 PM »

Hope I posted these right. This was my latest install.



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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2013, 05:25:34 PM »

i've been living on a generator and batteries since i moved to alaska.  i keep lookinng at solar panels but haven't had the money.  as far as wind find some place that has a wind gen going and listen to it for a while,  all of em i"ve seen are pretty niosy.  when i get a claim going up here i plan to get a hydro system.  quiet, if your source stream runs year around you have power year around.

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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2013, 08:42:07 AM »

Solar has reached a great point where cost has lowered and quality has increased.
I have a 5 kw solar panel setup that takes up one side of the shed roof. The amount of power it generates is average 20 kilowatts each day, so if you are after a good power generation system for both on or off grid electricity supply, solar is a good option.

Wind has a lot of potential as it has the opportunity to generate at night time too.

If installing solar, make sure it's on the right direction for your location, as position is important. My 5 kw system could be generating over 28 kw per day if it was facing north here in australia.

If installing wind, make sure your location is down stream from regular wind currants. 
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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2013, 09:22:41 PM »

That is a nice clean setup Shawn.

Is that bottom picture of a smaller room inside the shed?

Do you know your total average output of both solar and wind combines?

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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2013, 01:58:37 PM »

The smaller room is inside the barn and is what controls the input/output. The first month he was up and running he prodcued 698kwh. I think he will do better in the winter because the heat kills the power
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« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2013, 08:25:19 AM »

I think he will do better in the winter because the heat kills the power

While it is true that the heat on the panels reduce their efficiency, it doesn't affect the performance much at all.
Roofs where I live can get extremely hot, and the performance is still satisfactory.
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« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2013, 01:37:58 PM »

The customer in the picture already wants to expand. I think I will epxand him only by solar because the sun is more relaible than the wind. We are going to put in a Outback Radian inverter and probably increase his solar output to about 12kwh, turbines are runnning 1.4kwh each.
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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2013, 05:40:25 PM »

On the latest install the customer produced 700kwh in the first month. I just checked his system and he is up to 5100 kwh produced since we went live in May or June.
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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2013, 07:24:45 PM »

There's a guy who lives in a tiny house up here. The entire roof is solar panels. He's got a lithium cobalt battery, a 50-watt electric outboard, an induction hotplate, refrigerator, microwave and LED lighting. In the winter he puts it on a trailer and heads south. In the summer he tows it to the marina and has a forklift put it on pontoons. No mortgage, no utility bills.


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« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2013, 11:12:15 PM »

Pretty cool!  I wonder what the tax man thinks of this. 

In Michigan, they bill us for property (structure + land) taxes in the summer and winter.  I can just see arguing this one with City Hall…….
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« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2014, 04:29:50 AM »

Solar has reached a great point where cost has lowered and quality has increased.
I have a 5 kw solar panel setup that takes up one side of the shed roof. The amount of power it generates is average 20 kilowatts each day, so if you are after a good power generation system for both on or off grid electricity supply, solar is a good option.

Wind has a lot of potential as it has the opportunity to generate at night time too.

If installing solar, make sure it's on the right direction for your location, as position is important. My 5 kw system could be generating over 28 kw per day if it was facing north here in australia.

If installing wind, make sure your location is down stream from regular wind currants. 

I do agree with you.. Solar is more effective and popular now a days.. Even I am thinking of adding similar system on my home roof.
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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2014, 05:21:47 PM »

got any schematics diagrams and or written or video directions

have you heard about the back spike, ups the voltage considerable

jay

if your talking HHO then Ive done lots of thought and made numerous revision and enhancements mentally.
these would work but for the time an few dollars needed for parts
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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2014, 12:37:43 PM »

What is HHO?
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« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2014, 12:55:53 PM »

Blue bee
you have heard of H2O =water or 1 atoms of hydrogen 2 oxygen

HHO = 2 atoms Hydrogen one oxygen it is a gas and does burn. goggle hho it will show more than i can describe

I have figured out how to make the plates with 3 times the surface area in the same area.

yes it will work

not as easy as flat plates more area and rapid release of gas

PM me if you'll comit to building one on a test bench first then acelrate when proven
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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2014, 01:11:40 PM »

I’m familiar with Stan Meyers, his VIC, his cell setup, and his electronics.  One of the nice things about being a beek, is people assume you don’t know anything.   I use it to my advantage all the time. Smiley

Actually Water (H2O) is a molecule of 2 hydrogen atoms covalently bonded to 1 oxygen atom.  HHO is the term usually associated with the gas that Meyers supposedly generated with his apparatus.  Namely mono-atomic hydrogen gas H (as opposed to the normal diatomic gas H2) and a non ionic HO molecule. 

Normal electrolysis generates H2 gas and O2 gas.  It consumes more electrical energy than you get gas energy out; regardless of surface area.  Meyers apparatus supposedly created H gas and HO gas with much less electrical energy in than gas energy out.  Meyers used tubes to increase his surface area, 
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2014, 01:52:09 PM »

There ya see I don't know everything
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the point to this hho is, the more energy one does not buy from the Gasoline Giants 
better millage less money till they finally install the odometer tax then they will move to?
the more you can spend on bees.
gas is carbon, tied up in (wax) oil after it burns in the car engine have to remove this carbon
oil itself will not hold carbon in suspension. they found wax to capture and hold carbon.
hho on the other hand has no carbon
actually no pollutants other than heat
noticed the wether pattern changes understand how much pollutants go into the atmosphere from cars
what if a third was water. more rain, yes
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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2014, 04:16:20 PM »

Hey I agree with you about getting rid of hydrocarbon based energy asap, although some beeks will cry when coal is finally made obsolete.   

Actually the burning of pure hydrocarbons in oxygen is a pretty clean process; it just generates water vapor and carbon dioxide.  The problem is the hydrocarbons (oil/coal) are never pure and the combustion is never ideal.  Air is 78% nitrogen and when you burn air (in a car engine) the nitrogen gets hot enough to start reacting with oxygen too and forming NO and NO2.  That would be smog gases.  When you burn oil or coal you also release the contaminates mixed in with them such as sulfur and mercury.  Then there is the greenhouse gases; both CO2 and Water vapor are green house gases.  I can sure remember how it never cools off down there in humid Florida at night!  That would be water vapor holding in the heat.

So how are you increasing the surface area of your plates?  You know Meyers claimed he had to "condition" his steel alloy tubes for them to work.  Maybe that was increasing the surface area too?  Are you also using Meyer’s PWM circuit and DC power?
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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2014, 04:59:40 PM »

Darn, I thought it was from a white bearded man in a red suit with the stutters! HHO,HHO, HHO.
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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2014, 05:50:08 PM »

Good one chuckle chuckle
do you realy want to know?
enough to actully try it!
I can tell you
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