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« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2010, 11:12:20 AM »


I have to pay the city 15.00 bucks a year for my backyard chickens.  I only get 6 and no rooster.  I have no idea where the money goes or what it gets used for other than the filing clerk having to make me sign some paperwork.  I get a "permit" and i've never had an inspector at our near my house.  I go along with it because I don't want my neighbors calling me in and then by that account i have to pay a fine for not having the permit.  I think an inspection by a chicken expert wouldn't bother me whatsoever....regulations, as long as they're limited and enforced in accordance, are fine....but really, if you're involved with bees or other animals the community therein lies as a great "inspector" in itself.  keeping up to date with local farmers' and their pesticides/sprays and keeping in touch with what others encounter is just as beneficial as paying an inspector.  i do feel that if the city/county wants to inspect my property/bees/chickens i do feel like it should be in the budget or accounted for with the tax money beforehand and not this slight of hand forced enforcement.    

i suggest if you don't want to pay an inspector, then perhaps become more involved with the city council and go to the city legislator/attorney and see what it would take to fight for your right not to pay an inspector.  it's not enough to voice an opinion on an on-line forum...if you're as passionate to not pay the fees then go the extra step and fight it.  

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The other problem is the trust that people blindly put in regulations, and the moral hazard this creates. Too many people trust government regulators so completely that they abdicate their own common sense to these government bureaucrats. They trust that if something violates no law, it must be safe. How many scams have “It’s perfectly legal” as a hypnotic selling point, luring in the gullible?

Many people did not understand the financial house of cards that are derivatives, but since they were legal and promised a great return, people invested. It is much the same in any area rife with government involvement. Many feel that just because their children are getting good grades at a government school, they are getting a good education. After all, they are passing the government-mandated litmus test. But, this does not guarantee educational excellence. Neither is it always the case that a child who does NOT achieve good marks in school is going to be unsuccessful in life.

Is your drinking water safe, just because the government says it is? Is the internet going to magically become safer for your children if the government approves regulations on it? I would caution any parent against believing this would be the case. Nothing should take the place of your own common sense and due diligence.

These principles explain why the free market works so much better than a centrally planned economy. With central planning, everything shifts from one’s own judgment about safety, wisdom and relative benefits of a behavior, to the discretion of government bureaucrats. The question then becomes “what can I get away with,” and there will always be advantages for those who can afford lawyers to find the loopholes. The result then is that bad behavior, that would quickly fail under the free market, is propped up, protected and perpetuated, and sometimes good behavior is actually discouraged.

Regulation can actually benefit big business and corporate greed, while simultaneously killing small businesses that are the backbone of our now faltering economy. This is why I get so upset every time someone claims regulation can resolve the crisis that we are in. Rather, it will only exacerbate it.


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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2010, 11:59:35 AM »

if this ends up in the coffee house, we can talk about ron paul  evil
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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2010, 01:08:57 PM »

if this ends up in the coffee house, we can talk about ron paul  evil

but his quote on the discussion of regulation within this thread was relevant Smiley   Kiss
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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2010, 01:18:05 PM »

that might be true, but my opinion of ron paul wouldn't   grin
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2010, 02:15:38 PM »

that might be true, but my opinion of ron paul wouldn't   grin

well he's been more consistent (in the good sense) than any politician i've come across  tongue

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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2010, 02:20:57 PM »

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well he's been more consistent

that's a little bit like embracing "change".
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2010, 04:42:49 PM »

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that's a little bit like embracing "change".

not quite sure what you're getting at?  embracing change? yes!  but not the obama kind.  i didn't vote for obama. i voted for ron paul as he was on the montana ballot. 

you'd be hard pressed to find a better candidate more in line with conservative ideals.  i've read history!  lots of different versions of it.  ron paul's foreign policy is not isolationism, but rather non-interventionism...i don't think he shows a lack of naivete at all in regards to military blowback and the unintended consequences of military intervention...name one foreign country who has a military base on our soil.  so we're bombed if we and bombed if we don't?  you prefer the policy of spending money we don't have for our overseas affairs? our murdering of innocent civilians all in the name of freedom?  here's my youtube research for the day: look up the "The Assassination of Patrice Lumumba"

so let's leave it at this: i'll keep ron paul off the bee forums for you and everyone else!!!!!  go vote for palin or romney or mccain or any other neocon corporatist...embrace your change...
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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2010, 05:53:13 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2010, 05:58:45 PM »

 jail  Time to lock this sucker down.. the thread that is
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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2010, 06:42:24 PM »

i am locking this as CV suggested. It appears to be moving quite far from the original post. If you wish to comment further please start a new thread. If you need to,please use the coffee house.
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