Gww, I had read about Taranov splits, but had forgotten about them. Yes, that would be great except my hives face a 4-foot retaining wall topped by an 8-foot fence and are only about 3 feet from the wall. This forces them up upon exiting the hive, which is good, but doesn't leave space for a ramp. I would love to try a Taranov split sometime, though. Maybe I'll relocate my hives with that in mind. Thanks for the response.