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« on: December 17, 2014, 03:09:24 AM »

Does anyone here keep a TBH with Straight sides Tanzanian style.?

Do you find the comb is heavier and more prone to failure and detaching.
What about comb attachments on the inside
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 09:34:28 AM »

>Does anyone here keep a TBH with Straight sides Tanzanian style.?

Yes.
http://www.bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm#ttbh

>Do you find the comb is heavier and more prone to failure and detaching.

No.

>What about comb attachments on the inside

No more than sloped sides.
http://www.bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm#attachments
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2014, 02:25:02 AM »

Thank you Mr Bush    grin
some very good points

So is there an advantage to sloped sides over straight? Is it just a trend or a movement that everyone is following blindly because "thats just how its done"?

Apart from combs and bars being a little heavier, the hive should have more room for the bees to expand. I was planning to build a TBH with straight sides and a 19" top bars.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 09:49:06 AM »

>So is there an advantage to sloped sides over straight?

As you lift out the comb the space around the comb increases with sloped sides.  It does not with square sides.  So it requires a bit (not a lot) more care when removing a comb from straight sides.

> Is it just a trend or a movement that everyone is following blindly because "thats just how its done"?

I actually made my first top bar hive back in the 70's with sloped sides before I knew of any other than the "Greek basket hive".  The literature of the time said that the basket was sloped and stated the reason that they would not attached comb to a sloped side.  I'm sure then the first KTBH was made they had read the same literature I had and, as I had, made the assumption, as I had, that it was true.

>Apart from combs and bars being a little heavier, the hive should have more room for the bees to expand. I was planning to build a TBH with straight sides and a 19" top bars.

I did one at standard deep depth (10 3/8" to allow bottom space) with 19" bars and on a strong flow they built a lot of combs very quickly and filled them very quickly and on a hot day they collapses.  Probably I caused it by opening them on too hot of a day, but it made me paranoid of having that deep of an unsupported comb.  When it collapsed it went down like a row of dominoes and I had to do a complete cutout to salvage it.
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