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« on: December 10, 2009, 01:52:14 PM »

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=2314438

not that this is a new idea....

i wonder who will pay taxes to support all these social welfare programs?  it's already a problem in some countries. 

as a general rule, it's 3rd world countries that are procreating faster than they are dying off. muslims are breeding at an ever increasing rate, but even catholics are not having as many babies, no matter where they live.   the real simple solution is to stop feeding, immunizing, and rescuing people.  not only will this cut the number of children down, but will take a toll across all ages.  it's a more practical way to control population and have less impact on the revenue needed to pay for things like...health care
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 02:41:20 PM »

I go for the survival of the fittest, as you've outlined, Kathy, rather than the one-child rule.  As you said, it's mainly the third world people who are procreating like rabbits, and the liberal do goody-gooders who take pity on them and want us to take care of them all.  It's hard-hearted, though, and too many can be swayed against it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 03:35:54 PM »

Maybe Mother Nature's response to overpopulation of humanoid life forms is to create natural disasters at an increasing rate, which includes plagues, floods, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, landslides, etc. 

Personally I think that the world will experience a major cataclysm that will reduce humanoid population by 50-80%.  Such an event will reset the clock of scientific advancement back a hundred years or more, and maybe, by the time mankinds population rebuilds enough to possibly threaten the planet again, we'll have developed solutions that are not so barbaric as those currently advocated.  After all, at some point in time a one-child-per-couple policy must be amended or mankind becomes extinct.  That last idea might be what some of the more radical "conservationalists" have in mind.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 02:34:41 AM »

Problem is when you take these third world types out of the misery they live in and stick em in the western world of paradise. Once exposed to good healthy food and lots of it, they breed even more than they did at home.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 10:26:24 AM »

only when they are given free things.  if they come to a country where they have opportunity, but not a hand out, they end up doing well and paying taxes!  those kids they have work also.

unfortunately, that country does not exist anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 09:00:04 AM »

only when they are given free things.  if they come to a country where they have opportunity, but not a hand out, they end up doing well and paying taxes!  those kids they have work also.

unfortunately, that country does not exist anymore.

True, but after how many generations? Seems the initial immigrants and the first offspring truly appreciate the opportunities bestowed upon them by this country,then the grand kids expect what the parents worked so hard for. They become Americanized.

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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 09:09:56 AM »

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders..."

Socrates - 469-399 B.C.


Apparently this has been going on for a while.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 10:20:49 AM »

anybody watch that ww2 in color special?  they quoted an article questioning the ability of the kids to give up their cushy life and fight a war.  the article wondered if that generation of kids was not to soft to fight.

we all think the kids are soft, but maybe we all have seen a trend?  just saw a recruitment stat (i'll look for link if i can remember where i saw it) and they said around 50% of the kids that try to enlist are not physically qualified.  that was not as troubling as the reasons.  it wasn't flat feet and bad teeth like the old days, it was obesity, high BP, high blood sugar, and respiratory problems. 

keith, you are correct that as the generations pass, we become soft and complacent.  it is important that we remember that we all, except for lenapi13 smiley, came from somewhere else. the key is to have people come for the right reasons.  if they are coming to make a better life, that is fine.  if they understand that making a better life is hard work and sacrifice, more power to them. 

the problem is that we are becoming more like europe.  people go to european countries to take advantage of the social welfare programs.  this is about to become more of a nightmare for them, as the EU laws will supersede the immigration laws of individual countries.

my great grandmother was an immigrant.  she and her sister came with nothing to find the father that had come over before them.  they worked hard understanding that there was no safety net, no bail out, and no instant gratification. 
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 12:28:34 PM »

Isn't this exactly why our social security is in such dire straits?  rolleyes  We're not producing enough kids to take care of all the baby boomers?  Oh wait...that's in trouble because it is a huge legal ponzi/pyramid scheme.

Seriously, though, isn't China still a huge problem with population?  Even after years of barbaric enforcement?

India and the middle east are the other problems.

Seriously, though, wealth is the only way to enforce these things, as people get more prosperous and enjoy luxuries, the thought of spending all those soft enjoyable luxuries on a bunch of ungrateful kids sure does look unappealing.

Our retirement isn't our kids, thankfully, unlike many of the poor countries.  Which is why they have so many troubles because of the one-child policies.

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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 12:45:30 PM »

It would be interesting to know how China goes about enforcing this policy and how many infants end up buried in the back yard.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 01:12:40 PM »

Seriously, though, wealth is the only way to enforce these things, as people get more prosperous and enjoy luxuries, the thought of spending all those soft enjoyable luxuries on a bunch of ungrateful kids sure does look unappealing.

You may be right - I think Japan is having a declining population problem with adult children refusing to leave the comfort of the nest.  In our country it's a (statistical) fact that reproduction rate is inversely related to education.  The more schoolin' you get the fewer yungun's you have.  Guess what that means for our global competitiveness position on average.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 10:51:00 PM »

Yup, if the southern immigrants don't get us, the muslim ones will!! shocked
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 12:17:23 AM »

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this was the basic point of a Qaddafi speech a few years ago.  he said there didn't need to be war because through immigration they would end up dominant.
if you can take 5 min of this nut, his speech is probably prophetic.

Libyan Leader Muammar al-Gaddafi


this has worked well in europe and even canada.  it is beginning to work here also.  not only do we have immigration, but we have radicalization of some who were born here.  ft hood being a good example. 

lord knows i am an advocate for free speech, but i am wondering where this will end. i envision a day when we live as israel does.  will that be the price of our freedoms?
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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